You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

[blackoutpony]

but ultimately, talent wins more games than coaching does IMHO.

Tell that to Lane Kiffin...

I don't need a guy who's a Mack Brown recruiter and a Bobby Patrino x's and o's guy, I want someone who's right in the middle. He'll give a solid effort in recruiting that will bring an upgrade in talent in the ballpark to what USF, Temple and CIncy are getting and be able to coach players up on the field. I think that's a realistic goal right?

It would be great to find someone who's amazing at both, but Nick Saban's already employed

[DiamondM75]

JJ needs to HIRE Ron Meyer as his recruiting coordinator.

[Lebanese4Life]

JJ's take on recruiting is the opposite of that but his coaching makes a difference. It seems to me this is a classic coaching vs. talent argument. Coaching we know we can get. Talent is a huge X factor.

JJ isn't the greatest coach.. hes average. and his clock management skills are pathetic

[East Coast Mustang]

It's not rocket surgery. I've always said we need to compete with Baylor, Tech, and TCU for recruits in order to get to where we need to be. Right now, as the college football landscape is arranged, we have about a zero percent chance of competing with Texas, A&M, and OU for recruits.

So how do we compete with Baylor, TCU, and Tech? We're in a less prestigious conference with a smaller stadium and smaller fanbase, so there's three strikes against us right off the bat. We need to focus on what we have that they don't...mainly, location. Waco and Lubbock are total s-holes and Ft. Worth is a nice enough place, but it's not Dallas. We need to sell Dallas and the city as much if not moreso than SMU itself. Come to SMU, and spend four years in one of the fastest-growing and most exciting cities in the country, blah, blah, blah. Take them out around Dallas itself and market all of the exciting things that Dallas offers, not just SMU. I love SMU, but let's be honest...it's probably not the most appealing place for 18 year old African-American males. But then again, neither are Baylor and TCU, I don't think. I would hope that we could do this in the future to market ourselves...Dallas has so much to offer and it needs to be one of the main aspects of our recruiting pitch.

Also, we need to market the opportunities in Dallas after graduation to recruits. We should have a group of successful alumni in different industries who are committed to SMU athletics who can sit down and speak with recruits if they have a particular interest in a specific career path. So not only market Dallas, but market the networking opportunities available in Dallas because of the 40,000 or so SMU alumni living in the region.

That's just off the top of my head on a Monday AM

[ojaipony]

Location, location, location. Followed by effort, effort, and more effort. SMU has a lot to sell even compared to Baylor (and forget about TCU . . . give us a stud recruiter or 2 and it's not even close with those fools . . . not sure about TTU - hard to beat KK and maybe occasionally you sneak one from aTm ala Seaver Myers but there's a lot of talent to go around in TX generally and DFW in particular).

I'd camp out at Dallas Carter, Skyline, Euless Trinity, etc. Build relationships with those coaches. We should be landing at least 5 of the DFW top 100 minimum each year. Then we go out and pick up some Houston recruits ala the Lamar pipeline.

Not rocket science, but takes tremendous amounts of EFFORT.

[mustangxc]

Location, location, location. Followed by effort, effort, and more effort. SMU has a lot to sell even compared to Baylor (and forget about TCU . . . give us a stud recruiter or 2 and it's not even close with those fools . . . not sure about TTU - hard to beat KK and maybe occasionally you sneak one from aTm ala Seaver Myers but there's a lot of talent to go around in TX generally and DFW in particular).

I'd camp out at Dallas Carter, Skyline, Euless Trinity, etc. Build relationships with those coaches. We should be landing at least 5 of the DFW top 100 minimum each year. Then we go out and pick up some Houston recruits ala the Lamar pipeline.

Not rocket science, but takes tremendous amounts of EFFORT.

Don't sell SMU short, we should have 12-15 of the area top 100 each year. Maybe a handful of state top 100 each year.

[Treadway21]

And don't bring LB into this because bringing top BB talent in is completely different. That talent is just looking for a one year spring board to go pro. The school does not matter as much. Exposure matters and SMU is on national TV 20 times next season.

We should bring LB into it. He filled his staff with young hot recruiters that work hard. JJ got rid of the two guys that actually worked at recruiting, Klemm and Rheinbold.

LB staff is not doing anything different from what Klemm was doing. Klemm was having some success. This isn't about Klemm, but the attitude that he brought to the table.

There is no reason another coach could not bring as much or more success to the football program.

[Mustangsabu]

Let Klemm and Rinebold go. That's not on June. And it does nothing to change the fundamental differences between basketball and football recruiting and LB vs JJ philosophies.

[Stallion]

the fundamental differences between June Jones and Larry Brown's recruiting are a)the assistant coaching staffs and b) a head coach that is actually immersed in the recruiting efforts-got it? June Jones had the wrong staff for the wrong school since Day 1 at SMU.

[Mustangsabu]

They are polar opposites on recruiting. I agree. And I wish they weren't. June believed his system would make up the difference. So far that hasn't happened.

[couch 'em]

"So far"?

[Treadway21]

Let Klemm and Rinebold go. That's not on June. And it does nothing to change the fundamental differences between basketball and football recruiting and LB vs JJ philosophies.

As I said in my posts in is not about those two guys specifically it is about the philosophy behind how they recruited and having a staff where everyone recruits.

JJ failures include not hiring a staff that is visible and hardworking in a highly conceptive Texas recruiting environment and rather than change the staff to be more competitive and get active himself, he accepted your premise that we can't compete - kind of like penciling in losses.

LB not only does not accept that we cannot compete with Texas schools, he believes we can compete with national powerhouses and hired a staff that would do just that.

The results speak for themselves.

[couch 'em]

To elaborate - JJ's staff is a bunch of old buddies with few other options. LB went out and found out who the best out there are and took them. Not a bunch of old buddies from his NBA staff of 1990.

[ponyscott]

The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.

[Mustangsabu]

The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.

I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.