Mack Brown and his UT staff - Y or N?

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:58 pm

I know the coaching situation has been written about ad nauseam, but a sincere question for pf.com:

Would you take Mack Brown and his UT staff (the ones that wouldn't stay at UT or get offered bigger gigs) as the successor to JJ and his staff?

Yes or No.

Pros- established name recognition and reputation, definitely has Texas ties to high-level HS coaches, can put a high-level staff together, staff can recruit this state, coached on the national stage with huge expectations, won BCS title, and this may be his coaching low point so we could get him on the (somewhat) cheap end.

Cons- even with great recruiting, his teams seem to underacheive; unproven whether he can recruit to a non-destination school like SMU; not sure whether he can get the Cedric Benson/VY-type players into SMU and keep them eligible, not a disciplinarian, he is in his 60's and may have little gas left in the tank (although LB seems to be doing just fine).

Ultimately, I think it is a chance that a school like ours might have to take. I have other favorites, younger guys with something to prove like Morris (Clemson) and Smart (Bama) and Monty at Baylor - but this is the type of hire that makes noise in the CFB world. It is a risk, because you don't know that he can replicate his success form a place like UT - but that could be said of most top coaches from top 25 schools. The alternative is to get a guy that has won at a lower level - like a coach from the MAC or C-USA or even FCS.

Mack might end up being just like the football version of LB - he could come in with the right staff of younger recruiters, let them loose on Texas and other states with top prospects, use his name recognition to seal the deal, bump up our recruiting into the top 25 - and then see what happens!

East Coast Mustang · Post by **East Coast Mustang** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:01 pm

Uh, no. We would be a laughingstock. They cant coach for [deleted] and their main recruiting pitch (Texas, Texas facilities and $$) would be null and void here.

Do I have to shout this guy's name from the rooftops? http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-foo ... 50366.html

TidePony · Post by **TidePony** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:03 pm

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:06 pm

ponyinNC wrote: I have other favorites, younger guys with something to prove like Morris (Clemson) and Smart (Bama) and Monty at Baylor -

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:07 pm

East Coast Mustang · Post by **East Coast Mustang** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:08 pm

ponyinNC wrote:
ponyinNC wrote: I have other favorites, younger guys with something to prove like Morris (Clemson) and Smart (Bama) and Monty at Baylor -

Sorry I didn't read your whole post I just fired off a response like a buffoon. Carry on.

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:10 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:
ponyinNC wrote: I have other favorites, younger guys with something to prove like Morris (Clemson) and Smart (Bama) and Monty at Baylor -

Sorry I didn't read your whole post I just fired off a response like a buffoon. Carry on.

haha - i don't blame you. it was too long anyway, just rambling...

Rayburn · Post by **Rayburn** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:23 pm

Not just no but hell no.

Mack Brown has shot his bolt.

Lebanese4Life · Post by **Lebanese4Life** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:26 pm

i say hell yeah! the dude won a national title and has had UT at the top for years. and the man can recruit. he would bring instant credibility to SMU

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:29 pm

Lebanese4Life wrote:i say hell yeah! the dude won a national title and has had UT at the top for years. and the man can recruit. he would bring instant credibility to SMU

I think you could have the greatest coach at SMU and we would still lose more games than we win if the staff cannot recruit top players. Simple as that.

That's why I brought up Mack - can anyone recruit the State of Texas better?? Or was that all the result of recruiting specifically to UT?

That is a good question.

redpony · Post by **redpony** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:29 pm

No- the environments and facilities are just too different for him to be successful- IMO.

leopold · Post by **leopold** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:39 pm

Mack won at Tulane and at a North Carolina program that consistently underacheives, so my belief is that he could win anywhere.

But if Mack gets fired right now than he becomes damaged goods, and hiring him looks like an act of desperation rather than looking towards the future. In terms of an overall coach and decent human being, then I think MB would be great, but unfortunately there's more than that to it.

East Coast Mustang · Post by **East Coast Mustang** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:40 pm

leopold wrote: hiring him looks like an act of desperation rather than looking towards the future

Bingo

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:59 pm

he'll earn more as a Longhorn Door-greeter at Suite Level of Memorial Stadium than SMU can pay him. He has a Contract through 2020 or something so he probably is not going to need a job unless he is driven to do so.

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:03 pm

Stallion wrote:he'll earn more as a Longhorn Door-greeter at Suite Level of Memorial Stadium than SMU can pay him. He has a Contract through 2020 or something so he probably is not going to need a job unless he is driven to do so.

Good point - although I saw a clip on CFB daily of Mack saying he still wants to coach and has something to prove. That may just be window dressing - and he can ride into the sunset with his fat stacks of cash...

...but many folks made the same argument about LB.

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