#39 Wolf breaks NCAA record (1989)

by **RGV Pony** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:15 am

I'm guessing that if there was a ponyfans.com in the early 80s, Stallion's post before the Cotton Bowl vs. Pitt would've sounded something like this:

"You saps that think the Ponies have a shot against a premier team like Pitt have another thing coming. Ron Meyer is no Foge Fazio/Jackie Sherill, and McIllhenny can't hold Dan Marino's jock. Dickerson is a serviceable college back, but Marino is an ALL TIME great. SMU has finally started to do okay, but Pitt knows how to win the big one...they had people winning the Heisman when SMU was still trying to figure out if they wanted to dress like Ohio State or not. Don't say I didn't warn you when SMU fans are wondering what happened to our quasi-perfect season. Beating NTSU and Grambling and tieing frigging Arkansas, and beating Texas on a down year, and a have-not like A&M don't prepare you for games like this."

by **Roach** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:43 am

RGV, that might be the funniest post I've ever seen on this site.
And pretty damn accurate.

As for the other issue: Levias unquestionably was faster and more athletic than Wolf. That's not something that can be argued. Wolf was not the type who had the wheels to turn a quick screen pass into an 80-yard touchdown. But to say he couldn't carry Levias's jock? I don't know if you can say that. If I'm building my team with SMU players, sure, I might go with Levias as my first WR. But they did such different things, ran different routes, operated in completely different offenses.... It's like saying Emmitt Smith can or can't carry Tony Dorsett's jock. Yes, they (technically) played the same position for the same team. But they're different runners with different styles, with different offensive lines, and Jimmy Johnson/Norv Turner ran a different offense Tom Landry ran. Personally, I think Dorsett was better. But I also know that Emmitt ran for more yards than anyone in NFL history. Likewise, I personally think Levias was more talented. But I also know that Jason Wolf will always be the all-time SWC leader in receptions.

No team of lawyers can take that away from him. Instead of looking for something to mock, why not just celebrate the fact that they both were really good?

Might reduce the chance of having a stroke, if nothing else.

by **Stallion** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:57 pm

when SMU is really about to turn this program around I will be among the first to report it just as in the late 1970s based on improved recruitment. The foudation is built 2-3 years before you see it on the field. I'll stand on my very public record of the direction of SMU football over the last 8 years or so on these boards and the correlation between SMU non-competitiveness in recruiting to SMU's non-competitiveness on the football field.

by **04stang** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:39 pm

stallion who the hell are you to talk about who was great or not??? You are nobody.....just a bitter old lawyer that thinks he knows something about football just because you have subscriptions to the rivals and other bs websites.....YOU for one have NEVER played football probably, and i for damn sure know that you have not played football at smu. Since you like to criticize so much, why dont you go criticize the players to their face??? But it is too bad you will never do that because you have no nuts....but you love to talk big on this site

rumor has it stallion....or should i say robert wynn....that you never even attended smu.....hmmmmm....

i cant believe people even care about what you think, BUT since some people do, im calling you out.....

you want to go criticize players....fine....go to the all sports center and do it to their face, hell, ill even meet you there and laugh when you get your [deleted] kicked

you have a big mouth stallion and its about time that someone shuts it

by **giacfsp** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:41 pm

Jeez, have a tall, cold drink. Take a deep breath. Whatever you need to do to relax a little. I totally respect your right to disagree with Stallion -- god knows I often disagree with him (for example, I find it reassuring to know that if the Ponies come out and shock the world with a blistering record of 10-1, we'll all be comforted by Stallion's proclamation that "SMU is ready to turn the program around"). And because I care, here's a topic for your next argument: you have his name wrong. Interesting approach, but calling someone out with inaccurate information really steals some of the zing behind your complaint.

by **jtstang** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:32 pm

04stang wrote:YOU for one have NEVER played football probably, and i for damn sure know that you have not played football at smu.

I bet you didn't either. Does tht mean you have to shut up too?

by **Mickey** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:51 pm

04stang
You are calling Stallion bitter? Read your post. Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

by **Mickey** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:52 pm

04stang
You are calling Stallion bitter? Read your post. Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.

by **PlanoStang** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:53 pm

Stallion wrote:Wolf was a decent possession reveiver but this is still an insult to the greats in SMU football history to even consider including him any where close to some of the names listed in the 10 or so players behind him on this list. He would have played a utility role as a possession receiver in the 1980's but that's about it. He's a great lifetime 9 yards per catch type of receiver-the kind that plays a lot when you don't have outstanding talent and athleticism at the WR position like Jerry LeVias, Ron Morris, Emanuel Tolbert, Gary Hammond, Kenny Harrison, Anthony Smith et al.

Wolf was a national top 100 recruit which was why Bo Schembechler, and a lot of other people thought he was crazy to come to SMU. His SWC, and SMU records probably don't take him out of that top 100 list. This probably makes him a just a little better than "a decent possession reveiver", and hardly an insult to the greats in SMU football history of which he is a member.

by **Stallion** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:13 am

that is absurd-completely incorrect. The fact that you actually berlieve that tells me all I need to know about your opinion.

by **Ikus** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:35 am

I agree with Plano on this one. Wolf's numbers are indisputable.
Rafael Palmeiro isn't a flashy player, and he wouldn't have been a top fantasy pick in any season in his career. But the fact is he produced, and he's headed to Cooperstown. I'm not putting Wolf on his level, but the comparison is there. You just can't argue with production like that. Andre Ware and David Klingler were terrible NFL quarterbacks, but they're going to be remembered for being very productive in college. Did Houston run a gimmick offense? Sure. But they still had to make it work. SMU ran the Run-and-Shoot, too, but he still had to catch the ball. To hell with the Rivals stars, etc. Jason Wolf was an extraordinarily productive player.

by **HixsontoLeVias** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:56 pm

first of all 04, newbie...Stallion WAS at SMU, and did graduate...he was on my freshman floor, NEVER washed his sheets all year...ANYWAY..I agree with Stallion//wolf was nothing more tham 3 and out, catch, run 2...big deal....stats are for losers, and ALL wolf had was some inflated run and shoot stats..ala, andre ware....

by **ClassOf81** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:50 pm

HixsontoLeVias wrote:first of all 04, newbie...Stallion WAS at SMU, and did graduate...he was on my freshman floor, NEVER washed his sheets all year...ANYWAY..I agree with Stallion//wolf was nothing more tham 3 and out, catch, run 2...big deal....stats are for losers, and ALL wolf had was some inflated run and shoot stats..ala, andre ware....

So you wouldn't want Andre Ware -- and his Heisman -- on our team? Granted, I don't want him running an NFL offense, because it was pretty obvious, but he was as productive a college QB as there is.

by **HixsontoLeVias** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:56 pm

Thanks 81 (we were in the same class, btw..), you make my point...Ware really wasn't that good after all, now was he??

by **PonyTales** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:29 pm

That's true, but 81's point is valid, too. Ware was uesless in the NFL, but there isn't a PonyFan among us who wouldn't take a QB who threw for a kajillion yards and touchdowns every game.
(After all, a kajillion is a hell of a lot.)

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