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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby mustangxc » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:33 am

I think BYU is similar to TCU and Rutgers so I think we would be competitive with them but ultimately lose. Great effort by Houston, too bad they couldn't pull it off for the conference.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby sbsmith » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:41 am

A loss is a loss no matter how competitive you were.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby Cougar King » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:44 am

sbsmith wrote:A loss is a loss no matter how competitive you were.



Levine said that almost exact quote at the end of yesterday's game. He will have this team focused and prepped for Rutgers next week.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby SMUer » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:18 am

I've got a connection that knows the Devil and boy he has got a deal for you:

SMU will often look terrible, sometimes comical but will always eek out a win against teams with a losing record. Now all you have to do is schedule awful teams and you can get six wins and to a bowl game. Here's the catch, you will never play a full game impressively on the U.S. mainland, and you'll never beat a team with a record over 0.500...what do you say?

Basically, with only a hands-worth of hiccups either way, your wish has been granted.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby MustangStealth » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:30 pm

ojaipony wrote:Yes, I agree (and yes, I know I will get flamed). Win/loss record is all that matters right now. Look at Houston. They have played absolutely nobody and there was talk of them being ranked if they beat BYU.

Play TCU and north Texas and then absolute duds in OOC (SFA is a good option as one). It's a joke that anyone would think we could even be remotely competitive with a Baylor or aTM right now. Stupidity to play them right now. Get your W-L record up (more than 6 or 7 wins), create some buzz, and then go from there. That's the "next step" formula.



You would have a good point... if not for all of the evidence that says you're wrong.

We have been to 4 straight bowl games, two 8 win seasons in that stretch. Has that "created some buzz"? NO!

In 2011 we started 4-1, including a win at #20 TCU. We then hosted UCF in front of 16,000 empty seats. Win/loss record does not matter if nobody cares about our opponents.

You have to win and you have to do it against teams people care about if want any real interest to build.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby ponyscott » Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:28 pm

And need to be consistent about it...4-1 in 2011 was a blip on the screen at the time and we will never draw many for UCF anyway. SMU needs to be a consistent winner to draw well from the rest of the fair weather DFW fans...oh they will come...but only to watch a winner that is drawing National attention.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby Treadway21 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:28 pm

MustangStealth wrote:
ojaipony wrote:Yes, I agree (and yes, I know I will get flamed). Win/loss record is all that matters right now. Look at Houston. They have played absolutely nobody and there was talk of them being ranked if they beat BYU.

Play TCU and north Texas and then absolute duds in OOC (SFA is a good option as one). It's a joke that anyone would think we could even be remotely competitive with a Baylor or aTM right now. Stupidity to play them right now. Get your W-L record up (more than 6 or 7 wins), create some buzz, and then go from there. That's the "next step" formula.



You would have a good point... if not for all of the evidence that says you're wrong.

We have been to 4 straight bowl games, two 8 win seasons in that stretch. Has that "created some buzz"? NO!

In 2011 we started 4-1, including a win at #20 TCU. We then hosted UCF in front of 16,000 empty seats. Win/loss record does not matter if nobody cares about our opponents.

You have to win and you have to do it against teams people care about if want any real interest to build.


This kind if disproves play a bunch of nobodies and win to create buzz formula.

You can't have it both ways. If we go that route and only get 15k because no fans care that we beat a bunch of FCS teams, then we get killed anytime we play any team other than the dregs of college football then we blame the fans who have suffered thru 25 years of pain while somehow TCU and Baylor have found a way to be competitive and win over the UTs of the world. That sounds like a recipe of success.

End of run on sentence and rant.
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Re: Beating less than .500 teams

Postby Bergermeister » Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:54 am

SMU21TCU10 wrote:I personally think if we played TCU and 3 cupcakes, started out 3-1 this year, and were 6-2 after Temple, we would overall draw a higher average attendance since more people would be interested. Instead, we start out 1-4, and nobody cares the rest of the year. Starting out 3-1, getting 10 wins, would draw much more interest in the program.

Yet, we continue to f-up the schedule and facilitate fan apathy.
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