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Postby CalallenStang » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:55 am

46 carries and 3 fumbles so far. That's a fumble every 15.333333 carries. Does Shead not know how to secure the football?
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby sbsmith » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:15 am

RB coach needs to help him with that
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby RGV Pony » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:24 am

sbsmith wrote:RB coach needs to help him with that


You mean the guy who holds the NCAA record for int's?
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby sbsmith » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:35 am

RGV Pony wrote:
sbsmith wrote:RB coach needs to help him with that


You mean the guy who holds the NCAA record for int's?




No biggie it's not like he holds the record for fumbles.
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby No Quarter » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:45 am

I never played football on any organized team at any level but thought there were specific drills to train RBs not to fumble. Seems like I've read about them on ponyfans.com in times past. Are they done in our practices? Or is not doing so part of the no contact credo I've read about?

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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby GeorgiaMustang » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:06 pm

I have not been impressed with him this year at all. He seems to dance a bit too much and at times seems to be running in place.

Also, that fumble/strip returned for a touchdown was simply the Memphis linebacker saying he wants to take the ball away more than Shead wants to hold onto it.
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby MV pony » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:06 pm

Bet he never drops his phone or IPad :mrgreen: . Or would let anyone take these away from him.
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby Rayburn » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:15 pm

Shead's loose handling of the ball is a basic flaw. Backs instinctively know not to do what he has done. He also does not run with authority (power) and hesitates too much and too long in looking for the open field. Hopefully, he'll improve.
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby 82Pony » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:16 pm

If only he had those instincts in high school imagine what he could have done!
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby Mustangsabu » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:53 pm

As Shead said in the interview, he is well aware of what he did wrong. His mind was elsewhere. He needs to address it and fix it.
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby Pony147 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:03 pm

No Quarter wrote:I never played football on any organized team at any level but thought there were specific drills to train RBs not to fumble. Seems like I've read about them on ponyfans.com in times past. Are they done in our practices? Or is not doing so part of the no contact credo I've read about?

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Adrian Peterson had a really bad fumbling problem a couple years ago and used a heavier football during drills to help fix that. Could we do something like this?

http://adrian-peterson28.blogspot.com/2 ... educe.html
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:30 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:As Shead said in the interview, he is well aware of what he did wrong. His mind was elsewhere. He needs to address it and fix it.



absolutely; high and tight in traffic. Our guys know what they are supposed to do and not supposed to do, but in the fog of battle...
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby PonySnob » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:05 pm

Pony147 wrote:
No Quarter wrote:I never played football on any organized team at any level but thought there were specific drills to train RBs not to fumble. Seems like I've read about them on ponyfans.com in times past. Are they done in our practices? Or is not doing so part of the no contact credo I've read about?

Comment from former players requested AND from those those who have watched our practices or heard about them second hand.


Adrian Peterson had a really bad fumbling problem a couple years ago and used a heavier football during drills to help fix that. Could we do something like this?

http://adrian-peterson28.blogspot.com/2 ... educe.html


We might not be able to afford any "special" footballs......
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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby mrydel » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:15 pm

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Re: Shead and Ball Security

Postby PoconoPony » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:27 pm

Tiki Barber formerly of the NY Giants had a history of fumbles before Coach Tom Caughlin arrived and showed him how to hold and carry the ball. He seldom fumbled thereafter. Essentially, the ball is held in the middle of the chest/stomach tucked in right below the lower edge of the shoulder pads. The ball is somewhat vertical with the hand over the top tip of the ball and the elbow and forearm shielding and pushing the ball into the stomach/chest. This takes away stripping the ball from the side of the body where you do not have the same leverage and strength on the ball and/or corrects the swinging of the ball in the arm and away from the body as the back runs protecting the ball from various hits and stripping chops.
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