Tie breakers

Mustangsabu · Post by **Mustangsabu** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:42 pm

I'm sure this is written somewhere and it is entirely academic, but in a world where our only conference loss (I'm not saying I expect that) was in overtime and we had not played the team also at 7-1 (Louisville) should we not win a tie breaker on the bias is that we were unbeaten in regulation?

It's fun to speculate...

East Coast Mustang · Post by **East Coast Mustang** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:45 pm

No, tiebreaker is head-to-head and then BCS ranking, I believe.

Basically, we would need to win out and have both Rutgers and Louisville lose again to make a BCS bowl. Highly unlikely.

East Coast Mustang · Post by **East Coast Mustang** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:46 pm

Also, does anyone else remember about ten years ago in the SEC when it was going to come down to a coin flip to determine who won the SEC East and they quickly rewrote the by-laws to make BCS ranking the final tiebreaker? That would have been wild.

Mustangsabu · Post by **Mustangsabu** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:32 pm

Personally I think that they should impose a game to break the tie. I know they would never do that but I'd like a shot, in that situation, of even going to Louisville and trying to win it outright.

SMU2007 · Post by **SMU2007** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:05 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:I'm sure this is written somewhere and it is entirely academic, but in a world where our only conference loss (I'm not saying I expect that) was in overtime and we had not played the team also at 7-1 (Louisville) should we not win a tie breaker on the bias is that we were unbeaten in regulation?

It's fun to speculate...

Overtime loss vs regular season loss means absolutely nothing in football as far as I'm aware.

SMU2007 · Post by **SMU2007** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:07 pm

As a side note, I've always thought if you bet on an underdog team to cover, say a 2 point spread, but they lose in OT by 3, it doesn't make sense that you lose the bet. The lines should be based on score after 4 quarters. But no one asked me...

LHS81 · Post by **LHS81** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:24 pm

SMU2007 wrote:As a side note, I've always thought if you bet on an underdog team to cover, say a 2 point spread, but they lose in OT by 3, it doesn't make sense that you lose the bet. The lines should be based on score after 4 quarters. But no one asked me...

Sounds like you are a fan of OT games that you have money on

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:45 am

Tie-breaker for what?? UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either. I would say at best we're the 5th best team in the AAC and you're considering scenarios for us to be in a BCS game. That's comical. Maybe you really do work for JJ.

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:01 am

btw, we are 0-3 and outscored 131-53 against our only BCS opponents, non of which will make a BCS game (TT will lose to Baylor and OU) but we have delusional fans thinking we might make it to a BCS game. That sums up the SMU way of thinking and it is exactly why we are where we are....the outside looking in

Grant Carter · Post by **Grant Carter** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:41 am

LA_Mustang wrote:Tie-breaker for what?? UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either. I would say at best we're the 5th best team in the AAC and you're considering scenarios for us to be in a BCS game. That's comical. Maybe you really do work for JJ.

On the one hand people are ripped for penciling in losses, on the other hand they are ripped for thinking positively. Tough crowd.

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SMU2007 · Post by **SMU2007** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:06 am

Grant Carter wrote: On the one hand people are ripped for penciling in losses, on the other hand they are ripped for thinking positively. Tough crowd.

I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but there actually IS a difference between the head coach and random fans posting on an internet forum.

Mustangsabu · Post by **Mustangsabu** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:33 am

LA_Mustang wrote:Tie-breaker for what?? UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either. I would say at best we're the 5th best team in the AAC and you're considering scenarios for us to be in a BCS game. That's comical. Maybe you really do work for JJ.

Until things are impossible to achieve I like to enjoy the idea of them. I don't find that unusual for a fan. Writing your team off before they hit the field is far more questionable.

I don't think it's likely, but neither do I think there is a team on the schedule that we cannot beat. The ranked UCF team we manhandled a couple of years ago, and while obviously playing very well, is not unbeatable.

Grant Carter · Post by **Grant Carter** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:58 am

SMU2007 wrote:
Grant Carter wrote: On the one hand people are ripped for penciling in losses, on the other hand they are ripped for thinking positively. Tough crowd.
I know this may come as a shock to some of you, but there actually IS a difference between the head coach and random fans posting on an internet forum.

Random fans are ripped for both of those things. I was not talking about the coach even though I used the pencil in wording, I should have used different wording.

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ojaipony · Post by **ojaipony** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:53 am

LA_Mustang wrote:UCF and UH are unbeaten in AAC play and we're nowhere near as talented as either.

Not as talented as UH? Please. UCF? Yes, but not UH. They are not very good and have an extremely inflated W-L this year due to playing a bunch of nobodys. However, they are confident and some who haven't been paying attention think they are good bc they have a good W-L (again, because they played nobodys). This why I've been advocating a similar schedule for us (in the short term).

I'll guess we'll find out if I'm right or wrong with the Rutgers game. I hope Rutgers smokes them, and I expect they will.

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:49 pm

we need them to beat ru.

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