HART/TURNER: PLEASE FIX OUR LISCENSING ISSUES

[mr. pony]

As documented on this site many times before, one's ability to purschase SMU gear outside a 500 yard radius surrounding Ford Stadium is just about non-existant.

CASE IN POINT --- This afternoon I went into the RALLY HOUSE on Tollway to buy pops an SMU birtday gift. Rally House is known for catering to college gear of many schools and all varieties, I was once again disgusted to see only a tiny section of a few shirts and some miscellaneous trinkets.

So I asked the two college aged employees about the demand for SMU gear --- Out of the blue she says "SMU demand has always been strong at our store, but we rarely have enough for people to find what they are looking for", she went on to say that "SMU has always been very tough on LICENSING, therefore we are unable to meet that demand for SMU products".

HART/TURNER: PLEASE FIX THIS ISSUE. Compared to the other issues you guys must be working, this one should be a no brainer to address and fix forever!

Did she tell you why they have the SMU gear stuffed back in the corner, completely out of view?
That's not licensing.

[feelthehorsepower]

Have you never been to the Blvd?

Instead of being sarcastic, you could have said "Yes we do" and tell me where to buy one! WHY DO YOU THINK I WOULD ASK?!?!?!?!?

That is not sarcasm. If you had ever been to the blvd. you would have seen it covered with SMU tents of all colors. Why would you ask the question if you had ever been there? And by the way, you did not answer my question.

I have been to the boulevard, and I have personally not paid attention to that. Now I suddenly am interested in getting a tent which is why I ask. Where can you buy them? Are they the university's?

[blackoutpony]

I have been to the boulevard, and I have personally not paid attention to that. Now I suddenly am interested in getting a tent which is why I ask. Where can you buy them? Are they the university's?

You're a clown. There's no way you could have been to every home game and every blvd, as you claim, and never notice that. It's literally impossible unless you're blind

[Mustangs_Maroons]

Let's not lose focus of the title of the thread.

I actually am curious, I don't live in Dallas, but how is it possible that this rally house has 9x more items for tcu, than it does for SMU (from their website)? St. Loius had more merchandise items than SMU, for crying out loud.

I was traveling for work at the galleria in Houston, and I checked out a stand, and they had every school in Texas and most of the big 12 teams, but nothing from SMU. Heck, even north texas was there. Rice had a lot (albeit it was in Houston). I would have bought something, but they didn't have anything, even though I asked. So, while I admit, there is a demand issue by and large, how can we buy anything if it's not there to begin with?

So, if as the SID indicates, it's not because of licensing issues, then what is the issue in the supply? I just can't see the difference in demand being 9x, not for tcwhoo. For UT, perhaps. UT has over 13x as many items as SMU, and even that seems excessive. So, what is the issue? Demand/Supply, a little of both. Certainly, winning would help, and being more open to the casual fan, but I think this is a problem that needs to be tackled from both angles. The stores have to do their part too. No one will buy it, if it's not there to begin with, and there is clearly some inequality going on in this front.

[blackoutpony]

Let's not lose focus of the title of the thread.

I actually am curious, I don't live in Dallas, but how is it possible that this rally house has 9x more items for tcu, than it does for SMU (from their website)? St. Loius had more merchandise items than SMU, for crying out loud.

I was traveling for work at the galleria in Houston, and I checked out a stand, and they had every school in Texas and most of the big 12 teams, but nothing from SMU. Heck, even north texas was there. Rice had a lot (albeit it was in Houston). I would have bought something, but they didn't have anything, even though I asked. So, while I admit, there is a demand issue by and large, how can we buy anything if it's not there to begin with?

So, if as the SID indicates, it's not because of licensing issues, then what is the issue in the supply? I just can't see the difference in demand being 9x, not for tcwhoo. For UT, perhaps. UT has over 13x as many items as SMU, and even that seems excessive. So, what is the issue? Demand/Supply, a little of both. Certainly, winning would help, and being more open to the casual fan, but I think this is a problem that needs to be tackled from both angles. The stores have to do their part too. No one will buy it, if it's not there to begin with, and there is clearly some inequality going on in this front.

Look at the crowds in the stands for a UT vs Aggie vs Tech vs TCU vs SMU game and you will have your answer as to why there isn't as much stuff.

[feelthehorsepower]

I have been to the boulevard, and I have personally not paid attention to that. Now I suddenly am interested in getting a tent which is why I ask. Where can you buy them? Are they the university's?

You're a clown. There's no way you could have been to every home game and every blvd, as you claim, and never notice that. It's literally impossible unless you're blind

I don't pay attention to those details...I am more focused on finishing my beer and being with the girlfriend and others, BOP

[Mustangs_Maroons]

That answer is superficial and does not explain the differences I pointed out to in terms of merchandise items (9x more for tcwhoo and 13x more for texas). I don't watch college football for any other team except for SMU and ND, so I don't know how tcwhoo's crowd looks like, but being rationale, I can safely assume that UT and the Aggies will almost always fill their stadiums, plus they are public schools, so I get that there will be a large difference in available merchandise. But, not for tcwhoo. They are a small private school as well, and while they are certainly more successful in football than we are, I don't think this justifies to them having 9x more shelf space or items available on the web.

Duke, I don't believe fills their football stadiums either, and yet they have no problem with their merchandising, so it's not just about overall demand volume, or what I see on football stadiums, though there are obvious indicators. Being a local school should be enough to carry local merchandise. Having a Hall of Famer coaching the basketball program should be enough to increase the availability of the merchandise, even if we are into just year 2. My point is that this is an issue that needs to be tackled through both fronts, and while demand is a problem, there is also clearly a supply issue, and we must address both in parallel.

I would have bought SMU merchandise at the galleria, but I didn't because there wasn't anything there.

[feelthehorsepower]

Let's not lose focus of the title of the thread.

I actually am curious, I don't live in Dallas, but how is it possible that this rally house has 9x more items for tcu, than it does for SMU (from their website)? St. Loius had more merchandise items than SMU, for crying out loud.

I was traveling for work at the galleria in Houston, and I checked out a stand, and they had every school in Texas and most of the big 12 teams, but nothing from SMU. Heck, even north texas was there. Rice had a lot (albeit it was in Houston). I would have bought something, but they didn't have anything, even though I asked. So, while I admit, there is a demand issue by and large, how can we buy anything if it's not there to begin with?

So, if as the SID indicates, it's not because of licensing issues, then what is the issue in the supply? I just can't see the difference in demand being 9x, not for tcwhoo. For UT, perhaps. UT has over 13x as many items as SMU, and even that seems excessive. So, what is the issue? Demand/Supply, a little of both. Certainly, winning would help, and being more open to the casual fan, but I think this is a problem that needs to be tackled from both angles. The stores have to do their part too. No one will buy it, if it's not there to begin with, and there is clearly some inequality going on in this front.

Look at the crowds in the stands for a UT vs Aggie vs Tech vs TCU vs SMU game and you will have your answer as to why there isn't as much stuff.

What a superficial and crappy response...it had to be you BOP

[blackoutpony]

Let's not lose focus of the title of the thread.

I actually am curious, I don't live in Dallas, but how is it possible that this rally house has 9x more items for tcu, than it does for SMU (from their website)? St. Loius had more merchandise items than SMU, for crying out loud.

I was traveling for work at the galleria in Houston, and I checked out a stand, and they had every school in Texas and most of the big 12 teams, but nothing from SMU. Heck, even north texas was there. Rice had a lot (albeit it was in Houston). I would have bought something, but they didn't have anything, even though I asked. So, while I admit, there is a demand issue by and large, how can we buy anything if it's not there to begin with?

So, if as the SID indicates, it's not because of licensing issues, then what is the issue in the supply? I just can't see the difference in demand being 9x, not for tcwhoo. For UT, perhaps. UT has over 13x as many items as SMU, and even that seems excessive. So, what is the issue? Demand/Supply, a little of both. Certainly, winning would help, and being more open to the casual fan, but I think this is a problem that needs to be tackled from both angles. The stores have to do their part too. No one will buy it, if it's not there to begin with, and there is clearly some inequality going on in this front.

Look at the crowds in the stands for a UT vs Aggie vs Tech vs TCU vs SMU game and you will have your answer as to why there isn't as much stuff.

What a superficial and crappy response...it had to be you BOP

Yes, because I never use facts or well though out rationale for my posts. That's only you HorseyPower.

Superficial? Sure. I didn't think I needed to explain to everyone here that Tech has 60,000 people at their games, Texas has 90,000 people at their games, A&M has 85,000 people at their games and that TCU even get's 40,000 - 45,000 for their games while we have to scrape and claw to get anywhere near 20,000. That's indicative of fan support and demand for tickets, apparel, etc.

I figured any knowledgeable person could draw that from my post, but I sure as hell can spell it for you if I need to. There's isn't enough demand, so there's a lack of supply outside of the park cities which is where SMU physically is. You can't force business owners to buy something they can't sell and or don't want to sell.

[feelthehorsepower]

Yes, because I never use facts or well though out rationale for my posts. That's only you HorseyPower.

Superficial? Sure. I didn't think I needed to explain to everyone here that Tech has 60,000 people at their games, Texas has 90,000 people at their games, A&M has 85,000 people at their games and that TCU even get's 40,000 - 45,000 for their games while we have to scrape and claw to get anywhere near 20,000. That's indicative of fan support and demand for tickets, apparel, etc.

I figured any knowledgeable person could draw that from my post, but I sure as hell can spell it for you if I need to. There's isn't enough demand, so there's a lack of supply outside of the park cities which is where SMU physically is. You can't force business owners to buy something they can't sell and or don't want to sell.

We get 20,000 because our on field product isn't that great yet to warrant 40k people coming to watch it. TCU gets those fans because they are the only big 12 program in DFW. If we were competent we would get 30,000 fans to come. If we were better than TCU and beat them every year...I can guarantee we wouldn't have this thread and have no problem getting 50k to come to our games. We would need a new stadium.

Let's work on our recruiting, coaching and on field performance and our attendance will start to increase...once we get both in sync, we will start winning big.

[blackoutpony]

Yes, because I never use facts or well though out rationale for my posts. That's only you HorseyPower.

Superficial? Sure. I didn't think I needed to explain to everyone here that Tech has 60,000 people at their games, Texas has 90,000 people at their games, A&M has 85,000 people at their games and that TCU even get's 40,000 - 45,000 for their games while we have to scrape and claw to get anywhere near 20,000. That's indicative of fan support and demand for tickets, apparel, etc.

I figured any knowledgeable person could draw that from my post, but I sure as hell can spell it for you if I need to. There's isn't enough demand, so there's a lack of supply outside of the park cities which is where SMU physically is. You can't force business owners to buy something they can't sell and or don't want to sell.

We get 20,000 because our on field product isn't that great yet to warrant 40k people coming to watch it. TCU gets those fans because they are the only big 12 program in DFW. If we were competent we would get 30,000 fans to come. If we were better than TCU and beat them every year...I can guarantee we wouldn't have this thread and have no problem getting 50k to come to our games. We would need a new stadium.

Let's work on our recruiting, coaching and on field performance and our attendance will start to increase...once we get both in sync, we will start winning big.

Sounds great. You take West Texas and the Special Teams and I'll get cracking on DFW and the defense.

We're running Oklahoma Drills to learn how to tackle today, so if you could send Loftus over, that'd be great. We need a tackling dummy since he's completely worthless for anything else.

Ready........... BREAK

[ojaipony]

So, based on the SIDs post, I guess we ARE trying to make money on licensing. I think that's a bad move when driving to build brand. You need to saturate the market and give stuff out like hotcakes. Sure, demand has a lot to do with it but you have to GENERATE it first (we don't have any). THEN you monetize it.

[feelthehorsepower]

Yes, because I never use facts or well though out rationale for my posts. That's only you HorseyPower.

Superficial? Sure. I didn't think I needed to explain to everyone here that Tech has 60,000 people at their games, Texas has 90,000 people at their games, A&M has 85,000 people at their games and that TCU even get's 40,000 - 45,000 for their games while we have to scrape and claw to get anywhere near 20,000. That's indicative of fan support and demand for tickets, apparel, etc.

I figured any knowledgeable person could draw that from my post, but I sure as hell can spell it for you if I need to. There's isn't enough demand, so there's a lack of supply outside of the park cities which is where SMU physically is. You can't force business owners to buy something they can't sell and or don't want to sell.

We get 20,000 because our on field product isn't that great yet to warrant 40k people coming to watch it. TCU gets those fans because they are the only big 12 program in DFW. If we were competent we would get 30,000 fans to come. If we were better than TCU and beat them every year...I can guarantee we wouldn't have this thread and have no problem getting 50k to come to our games. We would need a new stadium.

Let's work on our recruiting, coaching and on field performance and our attendance will start to increase...once we get both in sync, we will start winning big.

Sounds great. You take West Texas and the Special Teams and I'll get cracking on DFW and the defense.

We're running Oklahoma Drills to learn how to tackle today, so if you could send Loftus over, that'd be great. We need a tackling dummy since he's completely worthless for anything else.

Ready........... BREAK

Whatever dude...

[blackoutpony]

Sounds great. You take West Texas and the Special Teams and I'll get cracking on DFW and the defense.

We're running Oklahoma Drills to learn how to tackle today, so if you could send Loftus over, that'd be great. We need a tackling dummy since he's completely worthless for anything else.

Ready........... BREAK

Whatever dude...

This is something that I like to call a joke. You know, like making a funny. Like Borat, "I MAKE JOKE".

[smuhype]

I dont buy what the SID has laid out. Bottom line is we should be GIVING our merchandise away.

Impressions is key --- and should be scrapping for them everyday regardless profiting early on. We must invest in our brand and then maximize the value over time.

I have seen and ALWAYS ASK different retailers about SMU, or the lackthereof of gear, and it always comes down to some licensing quirk with SMU --- maybe its the profit, maybe it some weird brand protection program OR MAYBE ITS THAT WE DONT WORK HARD ENOUGH WITH KEY RETAILERS TO MAKE US MORE RELEVANT.

Far more simple than folks are making it.

I shouldnt have to go to the car wash in Plano only to find key chains, flags, and hats from TCU --- I will not rest till this is fixed.