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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby Ikus » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:39 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:We should start Burcham in the Houston, UCF games..

Huh? I'm more "on board" with many of your posts than just about anyone on here, but that's crazy. Garrett Gilbert has had an incredible year and is responsible for a much-improved offense. Even if we don't win another game, he deserves to start the rest of them for all that he has done for this team. Some of his performances have been almost ridiculous (in a good way). I realize Burcham needs snaps, but Gilbert deserves every start and deserves a chance to go out fighting.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby AusTxPony » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:49 pm

Yes, dumb is right. The main thing I'm yelling for the rest of this season is a magical run for GG. He deserves it, and man do I wish we had Zach right now...and some semblance of defense. Of course there is some hope for a bowl, but a lot of that disappeared last weekend.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby sbsmith » Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:50 pm

ojaipony wrote:I hear you, and don't take my tone personally. I'm just SO tired of watching us lose. It's been almost 3 decades. It's nuts.

So how do magically start beating Baylor, TT? All of a sudden, we're going to just start picking up tons of high 4 star recruits in every class? I think we need to build a perception of momentum. JJ got us out of purgatory, now we have graduated to mediocrity. Next step is to string together some 9, 10 win seasons and personally I could care less who we have to play to get there. Sorry, but the teams that these other programs play always suck OOC (sure an Appalachian St COULD happen anytime, but most likely Buffalo and Wofford and Southern are always going to suck ... or at least the likelihood of them sucking is much much higher than the likelihood of, say, Baylor or TT sucking in the next 3-4 years).

I say we play a cupcake OOC schedule and throw in ONE big local game a year with either TCU or Baylor or TT or aTm then leave the rest of the "tough" teams for those we play in conference.



I get that you're sick of losing but remember that we're in Dallas, no amount of fake wins is going to get this city behind us. The city is filled with alums of Texas P5 teams and they only way they're ever going to pay attention to us is if we step up and start beating their teams.

The way to accomplish this is to copy SMU basketball and put together a staff that can recruit this state (DFW especially). That will build plenty of momentum without us having to sully our schedules with a bunch of junk. Remember that time is of the essence and this next round of realignment is the ballgame. We are going to be on the losing side unless we build a brand associated with slaying relevant teams, landing quality recruits, winning championships, filling our stadium and attracting TV viewers. Do you want to build a real program or just the illusion of one?
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby mrydel » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:08 pm

The schedule was made 5 or 6 years ago. Jones was supposed to have us competitive. You cannot just grab cupcakes out of the air spur of the moment. Especially when you are a cupcake yourself.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby sbsmith » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:09 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:
malonish wrote:Hopefully we can get some blowouts and give Burcham some playing time. He'll be running this train next year.


We should start Burcham in the Houston, UCF games..



Is Gilbert going to get hurt in the USF game or something?
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby Stallion » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:17 pm

In 2 weeks SMU's strength of schedule will likely be in the 90s-will we be .500? All we had to do to go to a bowl was defeat 5 teams at or below 100 in Sagarin and then one more against several teams at or about the 70s. I'd say we haven't earned a bowl and have struggled even in winning against teams below the Mendoza Line
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby feelthehorsepower » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:22 pm

sbsmith wrote:
ojaipony wrote:I hear you, and don't take my tone personally. I'm just SO tired of watching us lose. It's been almost 3 decades. It's nuts.

So how do magically start beating Baylor, TT? All of a sudden, we're going to just start picking up tons of high 4 star recruits in every class? I think we need to build a perception of momentum. JJ got us out of purgatory, now we have graduated to mediocrity. Next step is to string together some 9, 10 win seasons and personally I could care less who we have to play to get there. Sorry, but the teams that these other programs play always suck OOC (sure an Appalachian St COULD happen anytime, but most likely Buffalo and Wofford and Southern are always going to suck ... or at least the likelihood of them sucking is much much higher than the likelihood of, say, Baylor or TT sucking in the next 3-4 years).

I say we play a cupcake OOC schedule and throw in ONE big local game a year with either TCU or Baylor or TT or aTm then leave the rest of the "tough" teams for those we play in conference.



I get that you're sick of losing but remember that we're in Dallas, no amount of fake wins is going to get this city behind us. The city is filled with alums of Texas P5 teams and they only way they're ever going to pay attention to us is if we step up and start beating their teams.

The way to accomplish this is to copy SMU basketball and put together a staff that can recruit this state (DFW especially). That will build plenty of momentum without us having to sully our schedules with a bunch of junk. Remember that time is of the essence and this next round of realignment is the ballgame. We are going to be on the losing side unless we build a brand associated with slaying relevant teams, landing quality recruits, winning championships, filling our stadium and attracting TV viewers. Do you want to build a real program or just the illusion of one?


You need to schedule P5 teams from OTHER CONFERENCES (not Big 12)
Our Football can be competitive outside of Texas. Going against the best of the best won't solve the problem at the moment. Get the wins and exposure first.
Big 12 Football is tough, try scheduling some shaky Pac 12 team like Cal, Big Ten teams like Purdue, or ACC teams like NC State..
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby feelthehorsepower » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:23 pm

Stallion wrote:
feelthehorsepower wrote:
malonish wrote:Hopefully we can get some blowouts and give Burcham some playing time. He'll be running this train next year.


We should start Burcham in the Houston, UCF games..


Dumbest Post of Year


Please elaborate almighty Stallion...

Season is over in my eyes. We aren't going bowling and Neal needs to get some play time to get him ready for next year.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby SMUer » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:24 pm

Stallion wrote:In 2 weeks SMU's strength of schedule will likely be in the 90s-will we be .500? All we had to do to go to a bowl was defeat 5 teams at or below 100 in Sagarin and then one more against several teams at or about the 70s. I'd say we haven't earned a bowl and have struggled even in winning against teams below the Mendoza Line

This. Our Goliaths turned out to not be Goliaths...we just crapped the bed on all our opportunities.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby mrydel » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:25 pm

Because, to quote Herm Edwards..."You play to win the game!" We have the national leader in total offense. Ahead of Johnny Football, and you want to bench him. Go back to Houston cougar king.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby Stallion » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:26 pm

Speaks for itself as everyone else-except you- noted above.
Season isn't over anyway. We are in the exact same position we were in last year. Have to beat 1 decent team to go to a bowl and then 2 teams about 130 and 140 in Sagarin
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby Mustangsabu » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:39 pm

Stallion wrote:Speaks for itself as everyone else-except you- noted above.
Season isn't over anyway. We are in the exact same position we were in last year. Have to beat 1 decent team to go to a bowl and then 2 teams about 130 and 140 in Sagarin


Exactly. If anyone can get us there, GG is the man. When the season is over it will be NBs turn.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby feelthehorsepower » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:44 pm

Stallion wrote:Speaks for itself as everyone else-except you- noted above.
Season isn't over anyway. We are in the exact same position we were in last year. Have to beat 1 decent team to go to a bowl and then 2 teams about 130 and 140 in Sagarin


If you think we can beat Coog High or UCF, after seeing our performance versus mediocre Cincy, TCU and Rutgers...then you my friend are more deluded than I thought I was.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby sbsmith » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:08 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:
You need to schedule P5 teams from OTHER CONFERENCES (not Big 12)
Our Football can be competitive outside of Texas. Going against the best of the best won't solve the problem at the moment. Get the wins and exposure first.
Big 12 Football is tough, try scheduling some shaky Pac 12 team like Cal, Big Ten teams like Purdue, or ACC teams like NC State..




:lol: So you want to be in the Big 12 but you're scared of playing Big 12 teams? Got news for you, wins against these shaky P5 teams of yours won't get us any exposure because no one here cares about them. Also these schedules are made in advance, Cal, Purdue, NC State might not even be shaky 5 years from now when they come up on the schedule.
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Re: Blame for poor season

Postby Stallion » Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:16 pm

feelthehorsepower wrote:
Stallion wrote:Speaks for itself as everyone else-except you- noted above.
Season isn't over anyway. We are in the exact same position we were in last year. Have to beat 1 decent team to go to a bowl and then 2 teams about 130 and 140 in Sagarin


If you think we can beat Coog High or UCF, after seeing our performance versus mediocre Cincy, TCU and Rutgers...then you my friend are more deluded than I thought I was.


again I've got a 100% prediction rating on SMU games this year and I know for a fact you have missed on at least 4 games. But you don't give up on the Season until its over. I picked 5-7 and that looks golden but if it isn't I'll be glad to go to a Bowl just like we did by beating the Top team in our Division Tulsa last year in a big upset by 1/2 a yard on the last play. As I said yesterday our chances of going to a bowl are about 10-15%
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