Patterson in whine overdrive

[feelthehorsepower]

Call it what it is- GP is finally realizing he's outgunned week in and week out in the Big 12, and this is how that personal realization is manifesting itself.

Ask yourself- is that program going to consistently compete with Texas, OU, Tech, Okie State, and Baylor over the next 5 years? Probably not. Would I trade places with them? In a heartbeat.

It will be funny to see the heat get turned up on Fatterson in the coming years and how the Frog fans deal with that

They will compete. The games they lost were by really small margins, so even with their deficiencies, they were able to stay in the game until the very end. In fact, most likely TCU will be in the top 3 for that conference...they have awesome recruits coming in for 2014 and 2015. Just read they just got a 4 star QB kid from Arlington to commit for 2015. They certainly have one of the best facilities in the entire conference and they are in DFW which gives them an edge.

Texas Tech on the other hand, is all smoke and mirrors, and I don't see them competing in that conference starting next year. They are a fraud which started to show when the heat turned up on them.

Baylor will start to gain more relevance now, but the top programs in the Big 12 will be Texas, OU, OK State, Kansas State with TCU and Baylor switching back and forth.

Go away, TCU troll.

You're mad because I'm telling the truth. They are our rivals but they are very much what SMU should have been had we not gotten the death penalty. I know we all wanted the IPF, New Stadium and involved coach...they have that and we don't.

[gostangs]

I think what you just said is that TCU and Baylor will switch back and forth between 5th and 6th place? that is not what I would call an elite position. In fact - you could make the case that the Big 12 is the third or fourth best conference - so being 5th or 6th in the fourth best conference is not what the toads thought they were signing up for.

would we switch with them? - absolutely - nobody is claiming their spot is worse than ours. But elite they are not, and they might want to settle into that middle to lower pack spot for awhile.

Looks like that antelope eating popcorn can get ready for some more Patterson press conferences.

[feelthehorsepower]

I think what you just said is that TCU and Baylor will switch back and forth between 5th and 6th place? that is not what I would call an elite position. In fact - you could make the case that the Big 12 is the third or fourth best conference - so being 5th or 6th in the fourth best conference is not what the toads thought they were signing up for.

would we switch with them? - absolutely - nobody is claiming their spot is worse than ours. But elite they are not, and they might want to settle into that middle to lower pack spot for awhile.

Looks like that antelope eating popcorn can get ready for some more Patterson press conferences.

Compared to SMU, which is switching between 6th and 7th in the American, TCU is Elite. Sad but true. I would give anything for us to be in the 7th spot in the Big 12...20 million reasons

[Junior]

Dixon is trash.

Dixon probably is trash but I remember Tank Carder making hits like that and Gary had no problem then. Patterson is a great coach and has won lots of games. Just go to the podium and congratulate Briles and Baylor on a great season and try and kick their butt next year.

But you have to remember, when TCU does it they are just "playing hard between the whistles". When their opponents do it they are "trash" and "thugs".

[Junior]

Maybe its just me, but about half way through that unhinged rant it sounded like he was sorry he was talking, and started backpedaling about "respect for Briels and his program" and "you are going to make this about that one play instead of the game". Its like he can't control his emotions like a 5 year old, and then realizes later he is probably going to be put in time out for throwing an immature tantrum.

I will say one thing - although his rants are embarrassing, i really like how much passion he has and how connected Gary is to TCU and how much they are connected to him. How great would it be to feel that way about your coach?

We could have had that here if we had a coach with half a brain - June has squandered a huge pile of good will by his indifference and arrogance. We would all be standing in traffic to defend him had he just played this correctly and also given the job some effort.

it would have made for a great Snickers commercial.

[Junior]

You're the dumbest person on this forum in years, and no one wants you here. Please go away

i just can't believe he typed all that using Tapatalk...

[mathman]

Call it what it is- GP is finally realizing he's outgunned week in and week out in the Big 12, and this is how that personal realization is manifesting itself.

Ask yourself- is that program going to consistently compete with Texas, OU, Tech, Okie State, and Baylor over the next 5 years? Probably not. Would I trade places with them? In a heartbeat.

It will be funny to see the heat get turned up on Fatterson in the coming years and how the Frog fans deal with that

They will compete. The games they lost were by really small margins, so even with their deficiencies, they were able to stay in the game until the very end. In fact, most likely TCU will be in the top 3 for that conference...they have awesome recruits coming in for 2014 and 2015. Just read they just got a 4 star QB kid from Arlington to commit for 2015. They certainly have one of the best facilities in the entire conference and they are in DFW which gives them an edge.

Texas Tech on the other hand, is all smoke and mirrors, and I don't see them competing in that conference starting next year. They are a fraud which started to show when the heat turned up on them.

Baylor will start to gain more relevance now, but the top programs in the Big 12 will be Texas, OU, OK State, Kansas State with TCU and Baylor switching back and forth.

I am not sure I can agree with you here. They have 10 commits for 2014 and only one four star among them. There is a long thread on their board about this four star, Jimmie Swain, and whether or not he is really committed to them since he is still taking visits. I looked up your 4 star QB recruit for 2015 on Rivals. They have 3 commits listed, none with any stars listed yet, and the only one from Arlington is listed as an ATH and he is 5' 9" and 160 lbs. I agree with some of what you said but don't try and embellish it or you do truly sound like a Froggie.

[redpony]

I greatly dislike fatterson and tcwho but I would love to have a coach with his passion and desire to win/succeed. We have none of that and we pay an outrageous amount for nothing- no recruiting, no enthusiasm for the school, no respect for school traditions and no effort to reach out to the school, alumni and community of Dallas. And people have the audacity to wonder why our stands are half empty.

[feelthehorsepower]

I greatly dislike fatterson and tcwho but I would love to have a coach with his passion and desire to win/succeed. We have none of that and we pay an outrageous amount for nothing- no recruiting, no enthusiasm for the school, no respect for school traditions and no effort to reach out to the school, alumni and community of Dallas. And people have the audacity to wonder why our stands are half empty.

Our stands are half empty because we don't win big.

And it doesn't matter who our coach is...things would be the same/worse. I don't think our problems are solved with a new coach...I think the problem is post DP SMU...everyone needs an attitude change before we get into more commitments with other coaches. We have a deeply ingrained losing attitude and just like Fatterson said..."Losing is a disease"

[gostangs]

dude - if you don't think the coach and his staff has anything to do with that, not sure how to respond. Of course it matters. The disinterest is what is a disease. People can accept losing if they think someone who knows what they are doing cares and is on a path toward success. This feels like punching a clock and is obviously not going to improve.

[feelthehorsepower]

dude - if you don't think the coach and his staff has anything to do with that, not sure how to respond. Of course it matters. The disinterest is what is a disease. People can accept losing if they think someone who knows what they are doing cares and is on a path toward success. This feels like punching a clock and is obviously not going to improve.

I can bet you anything that Fatterson pulls another 4-8 year in the Big 12 and his new house will be half empty by the 3rd home game...and OU, Ok State, others will pack their place like it's a joke.

[Sic_em]

If you can't tell by my user name, I'm a Baylor fan. Also a Mustang fan (got my MBA from SMU).

I was at the game Saturday, which doesn't make me an expert or anything, but reading through this thread, I see a few accusations of Dixon being a thug, dirty, etc. I disagree with this. He is a hard hitter, and plays on the edge, but he has not been ejected previously. Under the current rules, I agree with the decision to eject him.

For the record, he did not knock out the OU WR Shepherd. That was a Baylor CB KJ Morton. And that hit was immediately reviewed in the booth and ruled clean. Morton was not ejected from the game.

When I saw the post-game Patterson rant, I had three thoughts:

1. I immediately thought of the tirade he threw against SMU and Jones. It's not a coincidence that both the SMU and Baylor tantrums came after emotional, close losses.

2. I don't mind him protecting his player, but it's wrong to go after an opposing player, no matter whether he felt justified or entitled, particularly doing so publicly. He should've taken it up with Briles privately. What Patterson did in speaking out is specifically against Big 12 rules. I doubt anything comes of it, because Baylor won't pursue it, but Patterson should be reprimanded by the conference office.

3. He had an opportunity at midfield after the game to express his thoughts to Briles. Instead, he glared at him and Briles said, "Leave it on the field." Patterson then said something as he was walking away from Briles (not to his face). Briles then said, "Good God, shake it off, Coach." So instead of manning up and saying something directly to Briles, Patterson didn't have the stones to do it, so he runs away to the safety of the closest microphone and starts his comical/embarrassing meltdown.

Losing seasons are never fun and I've been through plenty as a Baylor and SMU fan. But it seems this season has really taken a toll on Patterson. On the heels of all the Pachall drama, he had a player or two quit before the season, then had some kind of ongoing problem with Brandon Carter, then throwing Waymon James off the team recently. There was the suspension of Devonte Fields, where he criticized Les Miles in the press for not suspending one of his players (there seems to be a theme with Patterson wanting to tell other coaches how and when to discipline their players...ridiculous in light of all the problems he's had in this area), saying that you need to teach these kids life lessons...then when the going got tough against SE La, he played Fields before his 2 game suspension was up...some life lesson.

The stadium remodel at Amon Carter is nice, but in the 2 years since it's been done, TCU has gone 1-7 in Big 12 home games. Patterson seems to be feeling the heat on that one, whether he's really getting any or not. And of course, TCU was picked to win the conference by several prior to this year, while Baylor was picked more in the middle of the pack.

Baylor also flipped a couple of kids (Shock Linwood & Andrew Billings) who TCU thought they had in the bag. And UT has flipped a couple of their verbals in the 2014 class, so there is probably some frustration in that area as well.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

Thoughtful comments Sic_em.

From what I've seen of Patterson, he seems like a huge [deleted]. But in his defense, I view most college football coaches generally as [deleted], because that is what the culture of big-time college football rewards. Nice guys finish last in this business. Seriously, how many of these type-A psychos do you think it would be fun to have a beer with? I think its just the nature of the job, particularly in this era with so much money and so much pressure. After all, we're not talking about a bunch of Yale PhD's here. Football coaches who rise to the collegiate FBS level are people who have eaten, drunk, and slept a violent, corrupt, and socially backward sports culture for their entire adult lives. They are often coarse, extremely type-A, prone to violent outbursts, and have "interesting" moral compasses. If you climb to the top of that shit-heap, you've got a few good earning years where you have to make it happen financially. A couple of bad years and you're gone. That my friends is the kind of crucible that does not cultivate pleasant people.

[ghost]

Patterson casually overlooks his problems with Carter, #3, and the embarrassment he brings to TCU and the embarrassment the coach himself brings to the program with his hysterical meltdowns at games and practices. He is just a bad loser. Reminds me of the aftermath when SMU beat them in TCU 3 years ago in fort Worth. Patterson made it sound like he was responsible for helping SMU achieve prominence again. Of course winning takes precedent so it is ok. Woody Hayes was ok too until he punched a player and was starting to lose. Kind of like Saddam Hussein telling the rest of the worlds leaders how they should act and how their citizens should act.