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by ponyboy » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:14 pm
East Coast Mustang wrote:ponyboy wrote:In year eight of JJ's tenure at Hawaii, the team completed its transition from sucky also-ran and finally entered the Top 25, ending the season ranked number 24 in the coaches' poll. Though he did get key transfers (analogous to Garrett Gilbert coming to SMU), he did so on the back of numerous recruiting rankings in the 80-100 range on Rivals.
So we're going to be a top 25 team in 2015?
We might have been.
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by HarvCrimYaleBlue » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:18 pm
Oh my lucky stars...Christmas has come early this year.
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by StallionsModelT » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:20 pm
We're gonna be Top 25 in 2015?! LOL.
Baylor - blowout loss UNT - likely loss A&M - blowout loss TCU - blowout loss
Depending on who we get in conference play I think the ceiling next year is 4 wins no matter who the coach is. The lack of talent on this team will be blaringly obvious without Garrett Gilbert covering all the warts. This will be one of the worst SMU teams post DP.
Back off Warchild seriously.
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by ponyboy » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:25 pm
The year before Hawaii ended the season ranked, they suffered blowout losses to #1 USC, Michigan State, a top 25 Fresno team, and a ranked Wisconsin team. Average margin of loss was 30 points.
Let's be clear on what my argument is. My argument is that one more year of June Jones isn't death for this program.
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by MV pony » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:33 pm
I hope Mumme will be back.
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by redpony » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:33 pm
PB- perhaps you will buy tickets for all those empty seats of people who are fed up with jj and his actions. BTW- I suspect there will be a lot of them.
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by ponyboy » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:35 pm
Try as I might, I can't fix morons.
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by Rebel10 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:40 pm
ponyboy wrote:The year before Hawaii ended the season ranked, they suffered blowout losses to #1 USC, Michigan State, a top 25 Fresno team, and a ranked Wisconsin team. Average margin of loss was 30 points.
Let's be clear on what my argument is. My argument is that one more year of June Jones isn't death for this program.
I am not trying to be confrontational but no one is saying death. Death and mediocrity are not the same thing. But June had a pretty easy schedule when he went undefeated. So unless you can see an easy schedule in 2015 then we will probably not be a top 25 team. If it is an easy schedule it would not take a super duper coach to win it.
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by Rebel10 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:43 pm
StallionsModelT wrote:We're gonna be Top 25 in 2015?! LOL.
Baylor - blowout loss UNT - likely loss A&M - blowout loss TCU - blowout loss
Depending on who we get in conference play I think the ceiling next year is 4 wins no matter who the coach is. The lack of talent on this team will be blaringly obvious without Garrett Gilbert covering all the warts. This will be one of the worst SMU teams post DP.
No, I still think with the lower level teams coming into the AAC that SMU is still a 5 to 7 win team.
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by ponyboy » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:43 pm
I'm not taking any of this as confrontational at all. JJ's schedule at Hawaii the year they got ranked appears to me pretty damned identical in terms of difficulty to his schedule here next year.
Disclaimer. Do I really believe we're going to be ranked next year? Nope. I'm just saying it's not the frigging disaster everybody's making it out to be, trying my best in at least a tiny way to stem the lemmings with flaming pitchforks factor.
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by Rebel10 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:48 pm
ponyboy wrote:I'm not taking any of this as confrontational at all. JJ's schedule at Hawaii the year they got ranked appears to me pretty damned identical in terms of difficulty to his schedule here next year.
Disclaimer. Do I really believe we're going to be ranked next year? Nope. I'm just saying it's not the frigging disaster everybody's making it out to be, trying my best in at least a tiny way to stem the lemmings with flaming pitchforks factor.
The conference schedule should be pretty manageable because it will be watered down with the new teams.
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by StallionsModelT » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:48 pm
not sure if serious..............
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by redpony » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:51 pm
ponyboy wrote:Try as I might, I can't fix morons.
Then I guess you need to quit playing with yourself. 
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by redpony » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:53 pm
With the exclusion of the attendance of our ex-conference mates I wouldn't be surprised to see a bigger attendance at Moody this year than at Ford next yr. (butts in the seats- not tickets sold, since that tends to be a somewhat phantom number).
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by Rebel10 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:54 pm
StallionsModelT wrote:not sure if serious..............
UNT loses a lot of seniors so that is probably a win. Wins against Tulane, UConn, Temple, USF, and Memphis gives us 6 wins. Tulsa did not have a good year so you could throw them in there as a saftey net game. It's called scheduling your way to a bowl.
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