Medical Hardship Waiver for Gilbert?

[CalallenStang]

He never redshirted and the medical hardship was for this year I believe.

This is where you are wrong.

[NY Pony]

He already used up 2 years of eligibility in 3 seasons at UT.

He got an extra year for graduating from UT. NCAA grants an extra year of eligibility when you graduate and transfer.

That's just incorrect. They waive the requirement to sit a year. He's done, unfortunately.

[mustangxc]

He already used up 2 years of eligibility in 3 seasons at UT.

He got an extra year for graduating from UT. NCAA grants an extra year of eligibility when you graduate and transfer.

NCAA only gives you 4 seasons of eligibility. They have given players 7 years to play those 4 seasons, but under no circumstances will a player ever be allowed to play 5 seasons. He played in 2009, 2010, 2011 (credited back), 2012, 2013. He is done.

[SMU SID]

Sorry, Calallen, but you're wrong. He already received a medical hardship. You do not get an EXTRA year for graduating, you just don't have to sit out when transferring.

[CalallenStang]

medical hardship requires that you miss 2 years due to injury. He's played in 10 games. He's done-even if he wanted to come back

1) You are wrong on the 2 year thing. See below (at link posted below)
http://www.athletics.vt.edu/compliance/ ... asons.html

Guidelines for Medical Hardship Waiver Requests
For a student-athlete to receive a Medical Hardship Waiver per Bylaw 14.2.4, the following four conditions must be met:
The student-athlete may not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent of the team's completed contests/dates of competition.
The injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the season.
The injury or illness does not have to occur during practice/competition, but it must be incapacitating.
Appropriate medical documentation must exist and be provided.
All percentages are calculated according to contests or dates of competition, depending on how your sport's competitive opportunities are counted. Only contests or dates of competition occurring during the championship (traditional) season are included in the calculations. Conference championships/tournaments are counted as one contest or date of competition, regardless of the actual contest/dates used.
If the percentage calculation for the 20-percent rule results in a decimal -- any decimal -- the whole number preceding it is always rounded up. For example, if the softball team competes in 56 games, 20 percent of 56 is 11.2. Due to the "rounding-up," a softball team member who competed in 12 games does qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
To meet the first-half-of-the-season requirement, all competition must cease prior to the start of the contest or date of competition that begins the second half of the season. For example, a soccer player competing in the 10th game of a 19-game season does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver. Also, a student-athlete who is injured in the first half of the season, then attempts to play in the second half and aggravates the original injury, does not qualify for a medical hardship waiver.
NOTE: A STUDENT-ATHLETE RECEIVING A MEDICAL HARDSHIP WAIVER IS PERMITTED UNLIMITED PARTICIPATION IN THE NON-TRADITIONAL (NON-CHAMPIONSHIP) PORTION OF THE SEASON.

2) He doesn't qualify for this year. He qualifes for 2011. So this year's injury is irrelevant (except as to how it may or may not play into his decision making)

[NY Pony]

Sorry, Calallen, but you're wrong. He already received a medical hardship. You do not get an EXTRA year for graduating, you just don't have to sit out when transferring.

The SID has spoken!

[CalallenStang]

Sorry, Calallen, but you're wrong. He already received a medical hardship. You do not get an EXTRA year for graduating, you just don't have to sit out when transferring.

Interesting. This was explained incorrectly in an ESPN story I read. I will try to find it.

[SMU 86]

Sorry, Calallen, but you're wrong. He already received a medical hardship. You do not get an EXTRA year for graduating, you just don't have to sit out when transferring.

The SID has spoken!

As he freezes his behind off on the sidelines. LOL.

[CalallenStang]

Sorry, Calallen, but you're wrong. He already received a medical hardship. You do not get an EXTRA year for graduating, you just don't have to sit out when transferring.

Question for you: Why did Greg Paulus get to play QB for Syracuse after playing four years of basketball for Duke? Because he changed sports?

[CalallenStang]

He already used up 2 years of eligibility in 3 seasons at UT.

He got an extra year for graduating from UT. NCAA grants an extra year of eligibility when you graduate and transfer.

NCAA only gives you 4 seasons of eligibility. They have given players 7 years to play those 4 seasons, but under no circumstances will a player ever be allowed to play 5 seasons. He played in 2009, 2010, 2011 (credited back), 2012, 2013. He is done.

Can we please figure out how Greg Paulus got to play college sports for 5 years? If you aren't at the game, let's figure this out.

[mustangxc]

Again, he exhausted a season of eligibility in 2009, another in 2010, got credit for a medical redshirt in 2011, did not have to sit out after transferring in 2012 due to his graduation and so used up another season then, and used his last season of eligibility right now.

[CalallenStang]

Again, he exhausted a season of eligibility in 2009, another in 2010, got credit for a medical redshirt in 2011, did not have to sit out after transferring in 2012 due to his graduation and so used up another season then, and used his last season of eligibility right now.

On to something else now. If Paulus got to play for 5 years, why not Gilbert for 5 + 1? Could be due to changing sports, no clue.

[mustangxc]

Can we please figure out how Greg Paulus got to play college sports for 5 years? If you aren't at the game, let's figure this out.

Yes, that is because that was a different sport. His clock had not run out and he had all of his eligibility. It is the same with pro baseball players that play college football later. They are professionals in one sport, but conserve amateur status in all others.

[NY Pony]

[quote="mustangxc"]

He already used up 2 years of eligibility in 3 seasons at UT.

He got an extra year for graduating from UT. NCAA grants an extra year of eligibility when you graduate and transfer.

NCAA only gives you 4 seasons of eligibility. They have given players 7 years to play those 4 seasons, but under no circumstances will a player ever be allowed to play 5 seasons. He played in 2009, 2010, 2011 (credited back), 2012, 2013. He is done.

Can we please figure out how Greg Paulus got to play college sports for 5 years? If you aren't at the game, let's figure this out.[/quote]

There's a quirk in the rules that allows for changing sports. I remember that he had to consult with the NCAA significantly.

[CalallenStang]

Can we please figure out how Greg Paulus got to play college sports for 5 years? If you aren't at the game, let's figure this out.

Yes, that is because that was a different sport. His clock had not run out and he had all of his eligibility. It is the same with pro baseball players that play college football later. They are professionals in one sport, but conserve amateur status in all others.

Interesting. So that is where the ESPN story I read got it wrong.

Thanks for your help in understanding this.