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by feelthehorsepower » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:50 pm
SMU1523 wrote:IMHO, June has a point. I do believe SMU needs to show greater commitment to the football program and it is a joke we don't have an IPF. We did lose recruits to stringent admissions standards over the years.
I don't think June has met expectations, but I don't think he ever had the full support of the administration during his entire time on the Hilltop. I am not saying he should be our coach in the future because I would take a chance on Chad Morris. Nonetheless, whoever is the coach of SMU needs 110% of administration support. Mediocrity in College Football gets you no where!
True. But it's all too little too late.
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by Hoop Fan » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:51 pm
i think this is a simple negotiation. If June will shuffle the staff and bring in a few young recruiters and dedicate himself, fine, re-up him for 5 years i say. If he won't, both sides need to move on. sorry when you finish 5-7, you don't get to dictate all the terms and have to compromise.
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by gostangs » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:54 pm
5 years??? Are you crazy? Glad you aren't part of the decision making here. If he has anything it will be one guaranteed yr (2014), and then a cancelable contract at any time for next two yrs. anything more is not smart, and he can bolt if he doesn't like it. Give him 24 hrs to decide.
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by Stallion » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:56 pm
.02 cent buyout in 2015 if at all
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
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by Charleston Pony » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:57 pm
The announcers talked about JJ saying he was considering whether to sign an extension and said he wanted to make sure that SMU was fully committed before staying on for a longer term. We know from what has been reported that he wants the IPF, but there is still talk of academic hurdles. I suspect that has more to do with curriculum than admissions. It's one thing to get guys in...it's another to have classes and programs that can keep them in. I've assumed all along that part of JJ's plan is to recruit kids who have the talent to play for P5 programs, but are passed on because they are considered academic risks. TCU took a risk on that L. T. guy and that turned out pretty well for them. I don't think JJ believes he can recruit head to head against the big boys so he's looking for a competitive advantage via a dumbed down curriculum.
I remember when I was at SMU in our SWC days and when I had a challenging semester, I would try to mix in one breather and would always ask my scholarship athlete buddies for tips. They always had good tips. Anyone else remember or take "The Scientific Revolution and it's Impact on Man"? How about "Broadcast Film"? Of course, you did have to go to class...but that was pretty much all you had to do as I recall.
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by SMUPhil » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:57 pm
Hoop Fan wrote:i think this is a simple negotiation. If June will shuffle the staff and bring in a few young recruiters and dedicate himself, fine, re-up him for 5 years i say. If he won't, both sides need to move on. sorry when you finish 5-7, you don't get to dictate all the terms and have to compromise.
And unfortunately how do you get him to guarantee that he has 'dedicated' himself. He should've been dedicated when he agreed to start the job.
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by gostangs » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:03 pm
The whole "I want to make sure the university is committed" thing is a crock. He is holding out for more guaranteed yrs, and will use that as the excuse if he doesn't get it. I think our admin team is hoping he will pass, and we can say we tried but it didn't work, on to plan B. JJ claims we aren't committed, and we claim he asked for too much, and we all save face.
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by sbsmith » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:04 pm
Hoop Fan wrote:i think this is a simple negotiation. If June will shuffle the staff and bring in a few young recruiters and dedicate himself, fine, re-up him for 5 years i say. If he won't, both sides need to move on. sorry when you finish 5-7, you don't get to dictate all the terms and have to compromise.
June can't handle young recruiters because they show him up.
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
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by Hoop Fan » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:07 pm
gostangs wrote:5 years??? Are you crazy? Glad you aren't part of the decision making here. If he has anything it will be one guaranteed yr (2014), and then a cancelable contract at any time for next two yrs. anything more is not smart, and he can bolt if he doesn't like it. Give him 24 hrs to decide.
his coaching keeps us in alot of games. If he still had Klemm, this thing might be rolling right now. find two ace recruiters and JJ is salvagable and actually a good fit for SMU. Not saying it will happen, but i don't see the point in throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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by Rebel10 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:08 pm
Charleston Pony wrote:The announcers talked about JJ saying he was considering whether to sign an extension and said he wanted to make sure that SMU was fully committed before staying on for a longer term. We know from what has been reported that he wants the IPF, but there is still talk of academic hurdles. I suspect that has more to do with curriculum than admissions. It's one thing to get guys in...it's another to have classes and programs that can keep them in. I've assumed all along that part of JJ's plan is to recruit kids who have the talent to play for P5 programs, but are passed on because they are considered academic risks. TCU took a risk on that L. T. guy and that turned out pretty well for them. I don't think JJ believes he can recruit head to head against the big boys so he's looking for a competitive advantage via a dumbed down curriculum.
I remember when I was at SMU in our SWC days and when I had a challenging semester, I would try to mix in one breather and would always ask my scholarship athlete buddies for tips. They always had good tips. Anyone else remember or take "The Scientific Revolution and it's Impact on Man"? How about "Broadcast Film"? Of course, you did have to go to class...but that was pretty much all you had to do as I recall.
He told Gosselin it was admissions issues as well. Obviously sounds like you are a hard core JJ supporters trying to defend him like that. TCU also recruited against BCS bottom feeders and won those recruiting wars. JJ is not even doing that and deos not have good relationships with local high school coaches.
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by Charleston Pony » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:16 pm
Rebel:
Not a hardcore JJ supporter. You are relatively new to the board, so understandable why you might conclude that from some of my posts today. Just trying to interpret what might be in JJ's head these days.
If you've been paying attention, I wanted SMU to consider Charlie Strong back when Bennett was hired and I'm in the camp that believes NOW is the time to strike if we are going to get Chad Morris. I'm hoping Texas doesn't want him because he's an Aggie. I'd like to see him come to SMU, build a winner and then if A&M wants to hire him to succeed Sumlin when he loses his luster, we will hopefully be in position to bring in another quality guy behind him.
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by ebrooks11 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:20 pm
Charleston Pony wrote:Rebel:
Not a hardcore JJ supporter. You are relatively new to the board, so understandable why you might conclude that from some of my posts today. Just trying to interpret what might be in JJ's head these days.
If you've been paying attention, I wanted SMU to consider Charlie Strong back when Bennett was hired and I'm in the camp that believes NOW is the time to strike if we are going to get Chad Morris. I'm hoping Texas doesn't want him because he's an Aggie. I'd like to see him come to SMU, build a winner and then if A&M wants to hire him to succeed Sumlin when he loses his luster, we will hopefully be in position to bring in another quality guy behind him.
He really enjoys saying hardcore JJ supporter. Dont be offended he uses multiple times a day.
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by Rebel10 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:23 pm
ebrooks11 wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:Rebel:
Not a hardcore JJ supporter. You are relatively new to the board, so understandable why you might conclude that from some of my posts today. Just trying to interpret what might be in JJ's head these days.
If you've been paying attention, I wanted SMU to consider Charlie Strong back when Bennett was hired and I'm in the camp that believes NOW is the time to strike if we are going to get Chad Morris. I'm hoping Texas doesn't want him because he's an Aggie. I'd like to see him come to SMU, build a winner and then if A&M wants to hire him to succeed Sumlin when he loses his luster, we will hopefully be in position to bring in another quality guy behind him.
He really enjoys saying hardcore JJ supporter. Dont be offended he uses multiple times a day.
It's all good CP. 
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by mr. pony » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:26 pm
lwjr wrote:He is a narcissist. Nothing is ever his fault.
Just thank God he's not back in a bowl.
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by mr. pony » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:28 pm
gostangs wrote:Than we should say we won't sign it period. Offer withdrawn. And then the day after he resigns announce the IPF.
I like it - a lot.
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