DMN's Sherrington on JJ and the SMU situation

[PerunaPunch]

Same bs as before. Boy, steinberg is really pimping these journalists to get stories out there.

Steinberg was also the second JFK shooter, he's the one who really shot JR, and his alien wife lives in a compound in Arizona.

[Treadway21]

Same bs as before. Boy, steinberg is really pimping these journalists to get stories out there.

Steinberg was also the second JFK shooter, he's the one who really shot JR, and his alien wife lives in a compound in Arizona.

He's got way too much time in his hands these days. Plus June is the only one providing his drinking money so he has a lot riding on getting June to keep working. What does he do when June retires?


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[Stallion]

Rice, Tulsa, and Tulane are not elite athletically by any means but we still lose to them more often than not. Our first hurdle is to leapfrog these types of schools.

We ARE that type of school. That's why we need energetic recruiters. Tulane has one now.

Tulane has an interesting philosophy. Use the Rivals map feature on their recruits. Since the arrival of their New Orleans based coach and New Orleans based staff they are getting about 75% of their recruits from within 100 miles of New Orleans. Its not happenstance but a proclaimed strategy to concentrate on Southern Louisiana high schools. They've shown some tangible progress (now 67th ranked class). This strategy has a way of building on itself as we have seen in the last 5 years or so in BB recruiting in Dallas.

[PerunaPunch]

With regards to the Monday player announcement, and based on all the heat he took this year, I would be surprised if Jones isn't going to introduce some new assistant coaches.

You can say what you want about Jones, but he's a smart guy who (despite the ego) has shown willingness to evolve. So unless budgets get in the way, I assume he'll want to upgrade the staff. We'll see. I haven't heard anything that would indicate that's what he's up to, but it's what I would do if I were in his shoes. At this juncture, there's really no room for dead weight on the staff, so everybody has to contribute substantially toward recruiting.

[Rebel10]

June is defintely smart in knowing how to use the media for his advantage. Recruiting starts from the top. The head coach needs to lead by example no matter how many assistants he hires.

[sbsmith]

More rearranging the deck chairs, kick some buddies out and replace them with other buddies. He has pulled that move here before.

[Stallion]

he kicked 3 buddies out last year-what did he do with that opportunity. Throw out the Mumme hire if you want (still why do we have 4 QB Coaches?) -the other 2 replacements hardly demonstrate any new emphasis on recruiting. Compare to Larry Brown's assistant hirers? Comparable? Did we improve our contacts in our recruiting hotbeds like Larry Brown did with his last 3 hires? Did we solve any recruiting issues with those hirers? Were Larry Brown's hirers successful in the designated recruiting hotspots? Were June Jones' hirers successful in the designated recruiting hotspots?

[PonyKai]

Instead we've had Odum dabbling in Florida for more than half a decade while the rest of the staff couldn't even name local Dallas high schools. Recruiting derp.

[stc9]

Did we end up with our LBs coach and ST Coordinator because hiring another OC/QB Coach, Mumme, crushed our budget?

I will be the first to admit that with Mumme here our offense got significantly better outside of the red zone. Does the addition of Mumme explain this, is it all about GG's talent fully developing, or some combination of the two?

[feelthehorsepower]

Did we end up with our LBs coach and ST Coordinator because hiring another OC/QB Coach, Mumme, crushed our budget?

I will be the first to admit that with Mumme here our offense got significantly better outside of the red zone. Does the addition of Mumme explain this, is it all about GG's talent fully developing, or some combination of the two?

We need a new runningbacks coach as well as a dedicated recruiting coordinator.

[stc9]

Did we end up with our LBs coach and ST Coordinator because hiring another OC/QB Coach, Mumme, crushed our budget?

I will be the first to admit that with Mumme here our offense got significantly better outside of the red zone. Does the addition of Mumme explain this, is it all about GG's talent fully developing, or some combination of the two?

We need a new runningbacks coach as well as a dedicated recruiting coordinator.

Mr Gambini, that is a lucid, well thought out objection. Over ruled.

1. (paraphrasing) "If brought to a vote what we are going to do in any situation it would be 3-1 to throw the ball" - Coach Mumme. Given that, how important do you think the RBs are in the offensive scheme from JJ's perspective? They are extra OL for 60 of the 70 offensive plays p/game. JJ is never going to get rid of Chang.

2. The easiest comment is "You actually need to recruit in order to have a recruiting coordinator." We used to have a recruiting coordinator under JJ. The last guy to have that job was Adrian Klemm. He left immediately after the ASU fiasco. He was a very effective recruiter. I doubt that anyone on the current staff could tell you the first name of HPHS' HC. That HS is less than 3 miles from SMU. That is all you need to know about our recruiting efforts.

[Topper]

Rice, Tulsa, and Tulane are not elite athletically by any means but we still lose to them more often than not. Our first hurdle is to leapfrog these types of schools.

We ARE that type of school. That's why we need energetic recruiters. Tulane has one now.

Tulane has an interesting philosophy. Use the Rivals map feature on their recruits. Since the arrival of their New Orleans based coach and New Orleans based staff they are getting about 75% of their recruits from within 100 miles of New Orleans. Its not happenstance but a proclaimed strategy to concentrate on Southern Louisiana high schools. They've shown some tangible progress (now 67th ranked class). This strategy has a way of building on itself as we have seen in the last 5 years or so in BB recruiting in Dallas.

From a recruiting budget standpoint it makes great sense. Also an efficient use of the recruiter's time. U of H used to put together some pretty impressive teams consisting of nothing but Houston area kids who didnt get an offer from UT or A@M. Of course in Bill Yeoman's early days many of those kids were African American and not welcome in the SWC. Stallion, do you know when U of H integrated its team? I saw a documentary about the Ole Miss '62 team the other night. They played Houston every year back then, and Houston's team looked lily white on the video footage.

[stc9]

Last year, before the game they used SMU to end their losing streak, their HC made a comment (paraphrasing), "Right now, LSU is the marquee program in the state. Still, LSU can only take 25 or so kids a year. There is a lot of athletic talent in Louisiana. I am going to out fight everyone else to make sure they stay here." looks like that is what he is doing.

[feelthehorsepower]

Last year, before the game they used SMU to end their losing streak, their HC made a comment (paraphrasing), "Right now, LSU is the marquee program in the state. Still, LSU can only take 25 or so kids a year. There is a lot of athletic talent in Louisiana. I am going to out fight everyone else to make sure they stay here." looks like that is what he is doing.

Well, we are the other school in the DFW are apart from TCU and we can pitch to these kids to stay here instead of leaving for TTU, Baylor. There is a lot of potential in those kids that don't get the big Bama, LSU, Texas offers...

[stc9]

Last year, before the game they used SMU to end their losing streak, their HC made a comment (paraphrasing), "Right now, LSU is the marquee program in the state. Still, LSU can only take 25 or so kids a year. There is a lot of athletic talent in Louisiana. I am going to out fight everyone else to make sure they stay here." looks like that is what he is doing.

Well, we are the other school in the DFW are apart from TCU and we can pitch to these kids to stay here instead of leaving for TTU, Baylor. There is a lot of potential in those kids that don't get the big Bama, LSU, Texas offers...

I don't disagree with you. But allow me to summarize the beef PF posters have with JJ's recruiting. Mack Brown got on an airplane to go to FLA. Nick Saban got on an airplane to go to Texas and other places. JJ said in his interview with Pony Pride that he and his staff were going to call his current commits. Can you see the difference in effort?

Yes, there is value in the kids that don't receive big name offers. The reason the kids with big time offers are so highly sought, they are the most talented football players. In a perfect world, these "Diamonds in the Rough (DIR)" recruits are the guys you round out your roster with - not the building blocks of your roster. JJ might be a fantastic salesman for SMU when he is in a family's living room (I don't know). He needs to actually go to someone's living room to make his pitch. It is a competitive business. Face time, "coach love" counts.

For example, Saban was on 60 minutes before the season. He complained about playing in the National Championship game because it took a week away from recruiting. JJ is going to call his current commits. If you were 17 or 18 what would impress you more? A phone call or a personal visit from Mack Brown/Nick Saban/Les Miles/The Steaming Pile...etc.