SMU gets commit from RB

[Rebel10]

Maybe you should check into that a little further.

Right, I believe Houston offered to try to get Zelt to come back to Houston.

Wait so Houston actively pursued 2 players June had already recruited? Dang...trendsetter

I think in your attempt to be a smart alec you missed his point.

[alamocitystang]

[quote="ftworthmustang"]Maybe you should check into that a little further.

Right, I believe Houston offered to try to get Zelt to come back to Houston.

Wait so Houston actively pursued 2 players June had already recruited? Dang...trendsetter

I think in your attempt to be a smart alec you missed his point.[/quote]

Did I miss his point? The point being lost is not the belabored, zero imagination, broken record point he was making. The point is that every once in a while even June has won a recruiting battle and/or gotten other programs more interested in a player. Not very characteristic of someone not trying. It's an unfair accusation and no amount of pay site subscriptions could prove it. JJ may be a lot of things but NO ONE has been able to get above average classes to SMU in ever. Only 3 in my lifetime are even better than a June class and they were paid. The common denominator is SMU. Not June. Could someone do better? Maybe. But no one has. And BBall doesn't count because Texans don't care about it. It is apples and oranges...

The reality we all know to be true is that SMU is going to get great at BBall and our buddies that went to A&M/Baylor/UT are going to say, "so what?" Or that's a basketball school which frankly is a compliment compared to what we hear now. See cynicism is contagious...

[Rebel10]

Look stop acting like a jerk. USF has a very good class coming in to the same conference. Cincinnati and Temple are doing well. You must be Corso talking about pay site subscriptions because no one has mentioned that. USF had a poor season, new coach, no IPF, and very poor crowds. You hard core JJ supporters really support him even above al else including SMU. JJ seemed to have won more games with Bennett's recruits anyway. His last 3 regular seasons have been 7 wins, 6 wins, and 5 wins. Say what you want but those are the facts. Only an idiot would say Texans don't care about hoops especially in the those that live in the inner city in which we are trying to recruit hard in hoops. More JJ suckup talking points as you try to minimize the effects of basketball.

[alamocitystang]

What does A&M average per home football game? What about Bball? Case closed unless you want to go to a bigger city. San Antonio is a bball town (or so some think/say). They average around 2,000 a game at UTSA. UTSA football outdraws the beloved Spurs. This is the football board. The rise in Bball is spectacular but it shouldn't be used to grade football recruiting. Just pointing out facts

[Stallion]

obviously you don't know the facts because what Larry Brown and his staff does in recruiting in incredible. Rarely has any coach brought a nobody into National prominence in a year and a half. And don't kid yourself, they are noticing on the national recruiting level

[SMU 86]

A lot of people I know are talking SMU basketball in Dallas. More than I have seem in a while from all different backgrounds. The Mudiay committing on ESPN live gave SMU more publicity than any thing I have seen in a while as well. This is the one thing that could put SMU in a positive light in Dallas which could help the football team. I think it will take about 3 years for coach Brown to ge the overall team he needs to make a run in the AAC and the NCAA tournament but I think basketball is really crating a buzz in Dallas in many areas. Could Brown is very visible in all areas of Dallas as well at games. I don't know if the football team will ever make that 10 or 12 game run to put us in a BCS game but I think the basketball team will in due time make a run in the tournament imo. I thought we had football and basketball boards on this site.

[Mustangsabu]

The point is that the factors that make BBall at Smu attractive do not translate to football. Were you to take the modus operandi of the BBall program and repeat it in the football program there would likely be little or no success. The football program has to realistically target less in-demand athletes.

That is a separate issue from the effort being out forth. I understand that there are serious questions to be posed regarding the manner in which recruiting is done by the football team.

[Rebel10]

The football program has to realistically target less in-demand athletes.

I don't see USF, Cincinnati or Temple targeting less in-demand athletes.

What does A&M average per home football game? What about Bball? Case closed unless you want to go to a bigger city. San Antonio is a bball town (or so some think/say). They average around 2,000 a game at UTSA. UTSA football outdraws the beloved Spurs. This is the football board. The rise in Bball is spectacular but it shouldn't be used to grade football recruiting. Just pointing out facts

Duke football has bigger crowds than Duke basketball so crowd's don't necessarily make one sport bigger than another. Only a fool would say that Duke football has been bigger than Duke basketball. Just pointing out the facts.

[Rebel10]

obviously you don't know the facts because what Larry Brown and his staff does in recruiting in incredible. Rarely has any coach brought a nobody into National prominence in a year and a half. And don't kid yourself, they are noticing on the national recruiting level

What a lot of people see is June complaining about things like academic admissions even today and the basketball team has not done that. The basketball team just goes after the best players.

I'm as optimistic as the next guy, but I don't think the next coach will be turning away players with 4 SEC offers including Bama. I think we could use this kid IMO. I really don't care what ESPN thinks. Saban and Spurrier are both better talent evaluators.

Seems like this guy thought that we could have used Tyler Harris at one point.

[sbsmith]

The football program has to realistically target less in-demand athletes.

The football program doesn't have to do that, the reason they target those "less in-demand" athletes is because there's little to no resistance for their services making them easy to obtain. Get a real staff in here (one that you won't need to make excuses for) and you'll see a vast difference in what kind of athlete we're able to obtain.

[Stallion]

Without question the Basketball team targets and develops relationships each year with more top recruits both in quality AND QUANTITY-and they do it with 1/3rd the recruiters. SMU drops contact with some of the top Football recruits on its list before the battle even starts. We read this repeatedly-over and over again. They already have more offers out for the Class of 2015 and its something like 2 Five Stars and 9 Four stars. SMU Football doesn't do that even though there are probably 3 times more 4+ stars in football. Based upon recent Classes SMU develops relations with about 20-25 Top BB recruits every year. FB crickets until they transfer from UT and drop in June's lap

[SMU 86]

The football program has to realistically target less in-demand athletes.

I don't see USF, Cincinnati or Temple targeting less in-demand athletes.

What does A&M average per home football game? What about Bball? Case closed unless you want to go to a bigger city. San Antonio is a bball town (or so some think/say). They average around 2,000 a game at UTSA. UTSA football outdraws the beloved Spurs. This is the football board. The rise in Bball is spectacular but it shouldn't be used to grade football recruiting. Just pointing out facts

Duke football has bigger crowds than Duke basketball so crowd's don't necessarily make one sport bigger than another. Only a fool would say that Duke football has been bigger than Duke basketball. Just pointing out the facts.

Not trying to be confrontational but Spurs are in the top 10 in the NBA in attendance. Football and basketball obviously have different size arenas to to play in so I would have to agree with Reb on this one.

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

Plus Larry Brown seems to be recruiting more local Dallas area talent which will make them more attractive to the Dallas fan imo. The basketball team is made up of more visible grassroots Dallas area players that play often and that helps as well.

[ftworthmustang]

Wait so Houston actively pursued 2 players June had already recruited? Dang...trendsetter[/quote]

I think in your attempt to be a smart alec you missed his point.[/quote]

Did I miss his point? The point being lost is not the belabored, zero imagination, broken record point he was making. The point is that every once in a while even June has won a recruiting battle and/or gotten other programs more interested in a player. Not very characteristic of someone not trying. It's an unfair accusation and no amount of pay site subscriptions could prove it. JJ may be a lot of things but NO ONE has been able to get above average classes to SMU in ever. Only 3 in my lifetime are even better than a June class and they were paid. The common denominator is SMU. Not June. Could someone do better? Maybe. But no one has. And BBall doesn't count because Texans don't care about it. It is apples and oranges...

The reality we all know to be true is that SMU is going to get great at BBall and our buddies that went to A&M/Baylor/UT are going to say, "so what?" Or that's a basketball school which frankly is a compliment compared to what we hear now. See cynicism is contagious...[/quote]

The point is you are wrong. Colorado State offered Cedric Lancaster before SMU. Phillips recruited him while he was coaching for Houston. Phillips is the only reason we have players from Lamar and those relationships were built while he was with Houston, not SMU. JJ probably didn't even know where Lamar was until we hired Phillips.

[Stallion]

good point-Shelby Walker said he's known Phillips since he was a freshman

[feelthehorsepower]

5-8 running back? Really?

There are plenty of great 5'8-5'9" running backs of the past.

Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith come to mind.

TCU's BJ Catalon
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruit ... lon-114729

Kid is FAAAAAAAST