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Postby WorldStang » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:06 pm

because you're giving me a headache with this tired thread..
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Postby Nacho » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:11 pm

I appreciate your honesty. None of us is perfect. God bless you and all the Bears.
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Postby jtstang » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:24 pm

BaylorGuy314 wrote:I know that it is against Baptist theology. I am a Baptist myself. I also drink, dance, and gamble.

Jeez, do you also fornicate? You must be a member of the progressive movement.
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Postby EastStang » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:48 pm

About 5 or 6 years ago the Southern Baptist Convention was held in Las Vegas, NV because the Las Vegas Baptists asked them to hold their convention out there to evangelize the lost. They set a record for lowest booze and gambling revenues in the history of Las Vegas for a one week period. Put 25,000 baptists in Las Vegas for a week and the city dries right up. As for Pat Robertson, he's getting kinda old and probably had a senior moment just talking off the cuff. Just about every major religious figure in America has called on him to apologize for the remarks.
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Postby JudgeChamber » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:08 pm

I was joking about the bet, more measuring your willingness to put something behind your talk, but since you brought it up...

You've got to be kidding me with that link. Linking gambling to "covetousness" because you have to be lazy to be a gambler? You probably shouldn't use such a broad blanket. There are lots of poker players that play for 8-10 hours a day. You might not think that's work, but try it on some poker site for play money, just to see if you can take the time requirements. That's not to mention the fact that you if you lose, that's real money. If you misplace a check at work, or your till is a little short at whatever fast food place you work at [ ;), just kidding! ] then nothing too bad happens to you.

Poker playing is what I'm specifically talking about and to say you can be lazy and be a professional poker player is to be saying something stupid. You want to talk about the lottery and I'm right there with you, you want to talk bets on horses and dogs, I'm pretty much there unless it's strictly for entertainment purposes.

The Bible does not specifically deal with gambling or betting as a sin, and any correllations that are made are tenuous at best. My father is a professor at a Baptist seminary and an ordained minister. He has nothing against the game of poker itself, and while he doesn't play for money himself, he's never told me not to, or discouraged my playing as long as the limits are reasonable and I avoid becoming addicted to it.

And "who's a better Christian" is weak smack. All are sinners and come short of the Glory of God. That includes me, and I would assume that includes you and every other reader on this message board. I'm saved by the Grace of God and nothing else, and if it was shown that poker was a sin against God, then I would have no problem whatsoever laying down the chips and cards.

Now if you want to talk about the fact that poker playing or gambling can bring you into a situation that might cause a Christian to become a stumbling block for a non-believer, then I can understand that, and respect that.
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Postby JudgeChamber » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:10 pm

EastStang wrote:About 5 or 6 years ago the Southern Baptist Convention was held in Las Vegas, NV because the Las Vegas Baptists asked them to hold their convention out there to evangelize the lost. They set a record for lowest booze and gambling revenues in the history of Las Vegas for a one week period. Put 25,000 baptists in Las Vegas for a week and the city dries right up.


My father was there and mentioned how empty the casinos were. Apparently all the pros went to LA or New York, and a lot of people scheduled their trips as to not coincide with the convention, as it would dampen the party experience.
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Postby Hoofbeat83 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:20 pm

JudgeChamber wrote:I was joking about the bet, more measuring your willingness to put something behind your talk, but since you brought it up...

You've got to be kidding me with that link. Linking gambling to "covetousness" because you have to be lazy to be a gambler? You probably shouldn't use such a broad blanket. There are lots of poker players that play for 8-10 hours a day. You might not think that's work, but try it on some poker site for play money, just to see if you can take the time requirements. That's not to mention the fact that you if you lose, that's real money. If you misplace a check at work, or your till is a little short at whatever fast food place you work at [ ;), just kidding! ] then nothing too bad happens to you.

Poker playing is what I'm specifically talking about and to say you can be lazy and be a professional poker player is to be saying something stupid. You want to talk about the lottery and I'm right there with you, you want to talk bets on horses and dogs, I'm pretty much there unless it's strictly for entertainment purposes.

The Bible does not specifically deal with gambling or betting as a sin, and any correllations that are made are tenuous at best. My father is a professor at a Baptist seminary and an ordained minister. He has nothing against the game of poker itself, and while he doesn't play for money himself, he's never told me not to, or discouraged my playing as long as the limits are reasonable and I avoid becoming addicted to it.

And "who's a better Christian" is weak smack. All are sinners and come short of the Glory of God. That includes me, and I would assume that includes you and every other reader on this message board. I'm saved by the Grace of God and nothing else, and if it was shown that poker was a sin against God, then I would have no problem whatsoever laying down the chips and cards.

Now if you want to talk about the fact that poker playing or gambling can bring you into a situation that might cause a Christian to become a stumbling block for a non-believer, then I can understand that, and respect that.


good grief. this board is about football, not your evangelical dribble. get lost jesus freak.
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Postby Nacho » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:22 pm

New Baptist theology per JC (not the real one, the other guy) Baptists may play poker but not gamble in any other way. I laughing so hard as I write this I can't go on...You are a peach JC.
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Postby GoRedGoBlue » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:36 pm

I am 'Sic em Bears' tired of this Bible thumping...
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Postby JudgeChamber » Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:54 pm

Nacho wrote:New Baptist theology per JC (not the real one, the other guy) Baptists may play poker but not gamble in any other way. I laughing so hard as I write this I can't go on...You are a peach JC.



Where did I say that? Again, show me where the Bible says that gambling is wrong. The Bible mentions "casting lots" twice, and that's it.

I'm laughing at the fact that you have no response.

Waiting for your response.
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Postby JudgeChamber » Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:55 pm

Hoofbeat83 wrote:good grief. this board is about football, not your evangelical dribble. get lost jesus freak.


Yeah, let's talk about your joke of a football team... :roll:

Baylor by 28.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:15 pm

....I'd rather talk about your average of 2 Division 1A victories per year.
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Postby BUTitan » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:50 pm

Stallion wrote:....I'd rather talk about your average of 2 Division 1A victories per year.


and so would I about yours, which this all pathetic.
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Postby Dooby » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:31 pm

This thread is getting painful. It makes me want to do this:

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At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Postby KnuckleStang » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:52 pm

I'm glad to see Nacho back. I have indeed missed Nacho. He always made for an entertaining thread.
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