Baker Mayfield Appeal to NCAA Denied

[ponyfan08]

Per ESPN

Call him.

[sbsmith]

And tell him what, come to SMU and play for a lame duck coach that won't be here when you get eligible? His best bet is to just proceed with Oklahoma.

[ponyfan08]

Yes. Hopefully the lame duck coach is gone.

[dr rc]

Good. He didn't deserve one and he was an idiot to try and transfer to OU to try an unseat Trever Knight to begin with.

[gostangs]

trevor knight looked awesome. he may be the best QB in the country next year.

[Stallion]

I just read a story that said he would consider other options is the appeal was denied

[RepublicanPNY]

That denial is the best thing that could've happened for him. Saved his career

[PonyKris89]

He's been screwed all the way around, it seems. Tech, stonewalled him on possible scholarship, now NCAA screws him over. I really don't understand how the schools and the NCAA should have all the power they have over athletes that were not even recruited or even given a scholarship. Total BS.

As far as him going to OU, I cannot fault him for following his dreams, he grew up an OU fan, went to many games as a kid.

I would have to think, since appeal denied, that he might give some thought to SMU if they are interested in offering a scholarship eventually. I believe his GG connection would certainly have some influence.

[stc9]

According to this article, Mayfield appealed to Texas Tech, not to the NCAA. I think he was trying to get TT to relax their position about blocking him from transferring within the conference. I don't know if he has appealed to the NCAA yet.

I think it is morally wrong to block a kid or make him sit out if he was paying his own way in college. If the kid is receiving a scholarship (books, room, board...etc.) then OK. But Mayfield was paying his own way. If TT invested money into this kid, then that is a different story. I really hope the NCAA sides with this kid. If they don't, then that is further proof of their malevolence.

[mrydel]

He knew or should have known the rules going in. Why should he get to change them just because he changed his mind. The rule may or may not be bad but it has existed for many years.

[stc9]

He knew or should have known the rules going in. Why should he get to change them just because he changed his mind. The rule may or may not be bad but it has existed for many years.

I don't disagree with you about the kid needing to know the rules, because he is responsible and ultimately accountable to them. In almost every institution their are appeals processes for every decision. In this case he appealed to TT to get them to relax their rules. They denied him. I am sure there are further appeals processes, like to the NCAA for example, he can explore. If that fails, there is always the option of filing a lawsuit or getting an injunction against TT, The Big XII and the NCAA.

I, personally, find the rule morally objectionable because the school did not pay for his education. If Tech had invested scholarship money into Mayfield, then I think they have an actual contractual relationship with the player. In this case, they don't. If any other student who was paying their own way wanted to transfer to OU they would let him and not think twice. Denying Mayfield from transferring to the school of his choice is to one sided in the power dynamic given the fact that Tech didn't invest cash into him or have the lost opportunity cost of using the limited scholarship on another player.

[mrydel]

I hear you, but Mayfield could have gone elsewhere and gotten a full ride I would bet. So again, he knew the rules or should have and is now suffering for that. I have no opinion on the rule itself. Maybe it should be in effect or maybe not. Maybe yes for scholarship, maybe not. But in this case, the rules were in place and now he should have to live with them.

[stc9]

I hear you, but Mayfield could have gone elsewhere and gotten a full ride I would bet. So again, he knew the rules or should have and is now suffering for that. I have no opinion on the rule itself. Maybe it should be in effect or maybe not. Maybe yes for scholarship, maybe not. But in this case, the rules were in place and now he should have to live with them.

Don't disagree. I don't know this kid's financial situation (or more appropriately his parents), but this is a rule I would love to see challenged in a court.

Can we get a lawyer's opinion? Would this fly in federal court? Would he have to enroll at OU (or any other Big XII school) to have standing in court?

[mrydel]

There is nothing keeping him from going to OU. It is just that he cannot play football under NCAA guidelines. I do not see any basis for him having any recourse either with the NCAA or court of law.

[PonyKris89]

He knew or should have known the rules going in. Why should he get to change them just because he changed his mind. The rule may or may not be bad but it has existed for many years.

I don't disagree with you about the kid needing to know the rules, because he is responsible and ultimately accountable to them. In almost every institution their are appeals processes for every decision. In this case he appealed to TT to get them to relax their rules. They denied him. I am sure there are further appeals processes, like to the NCAA for example, he can explore. If that fails, there is always the option of filing a lawsuit or getting an injunction against TT, The Big XII and the NCAA.

I, personally, find the rule morally objectionable because the school did not pay for his education. If Tech had invested scholarship money into Mayfield, then I think they have an actual contractual relationship with the player. In this case, they don't. If any other student who was paying their own way wanted to transfer to OU they would let him and not think twice. Denying Mayfield from transferring to the school of his choice is to one sided in the power dynamic given the fact that Tech didn't invest cash into him or have the lost opportunity cost of using the limited scholarship on another player.

Yeah stc9, I agree, the rules are skewed against the student/athlete. Problem with challenging in court, is player's clock ticking and expense. Injunction would be huge even necessary for him to proceed in that manner. Problem is, even with injunction, he will not be able to procure a scholarship in the interim.