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Updated RPI 1/17

Postby ponyinNC » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:26 pm

Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza 8)
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby ojaipony » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:32 pm

ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza 8)


Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby Grant Carter » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:35 pm

ojaipony wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza 8)


Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Both
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby LA_Mustang » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:41 pm

First Take on ESPN said Cincinnati is the under-the-radar team that will make noise in the tourney
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby OhioBrownFan » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:51 pm

ojaipony wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza 8)


Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?


Wins-Losses are most important obviously. But RPI has been developed to compare teams. It's a calculation that takes into account how good your opponents are, who you've played, ect, kind of allows you to compare teams on equal footing regardless of competition. Obviously Louisville is probably better on a neutral court even though SMU compares favorably in RPI. The committee definitely looks at RPIs when looking at seeding a tie-breakers but it's not the end all be all. Stronger RPI is much better though, just another metric to validate a team.
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby PonyKris89 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:39 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:First Take on ESPN said Cincinnati is the under-the-radar team that will make noise in the tourney


I agree
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby Stallion » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:22 pm

Didn't Dement have us at 38 right before the disastrous weekend homestand where both Tulsa and TCU beat us at the Buzzer. Willie Davis with the ball in the open with 6 seconds dribbles ball off leg instead of running clock out. Otherwise, this is the highest we've been this late since Kato Armstrong days
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby blackoutpony » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:43 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:First Take on ESPN said Cincinnati is the under-the-radar team that will make noise in the tourney


Why on earth do you watch first take ?!?!?! :lol:
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby max the wonder dog » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:49 pm

Grant Carter wrote:
ojaipony wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:Updated RPI 1/17

#19 UConn
#28 Cinci
#32 Memphis
#37 SMU
#41 Louisville

wowza 8)


Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

Both


Another dumb question -- Will they also look at things like Top 10 TV market and a great back story about a legendary coach returning to the college to turn a program around?
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby OhioBrownFan » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:56 pm

max the wonder dog wrote:
Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

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Another dumb question -- Will they also look at things like Top 10 TV market and a great back story about a legendary coach returning to the college to turn a program around?[/quote]

:lol: No they won't. Strictly the team. And it's a committee, so there's a lot of bubble teams you can make an argument for each year. But I've never heard TV market and back stories putting a team over the top. That's not exactly fair to the other teams.
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby Dukie » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:16 am

OhioBrownFan wrote:
max the wonder dog wrote:
Dumb question: are tourney invites based on RPI or is it more complicated/subjective than that?

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Another dumb question -- Will they also look at things like Top 10 TV market and a great back story about a legendary coach returning to the college to turn a program around?[/quote]

:lol: No they won't. Strictly the team. And it's a committee, so there's a lot of bubble teams you can make an argument for each year. But I've never heard TV market and back stories putting a team over the top. That's not exactly fair to the other teams.[/quote]
I agree the committee doesn't look for good stories in making invites. Rather, they look for them in potential match ups.

But it's not AT ALL about fairness. It's about everyone on the committee trying to maximize invites for their conference. Who's on the committee this year from the American? I hope the AAC isn't cut out because they were planning to have a Seton Hall or some such repping them?
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby GRGB » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:49 am

It all depends on where they want the second round host sites number 1s to be sent to: Kentucky, UNC, Duke all need to be separated ... everything goes downhill from there...


If we aren't in the RPI top 40 I wouldn't expect an invite. That's a general rule for any non-conference champion team.

There are too many name brand schools that would be in the 40-50 range that they would be persuaded to take over us, plus all of the automatic qualifiers winning their conference tourneys that may be well RPI-ed below us, and not just from lesser conferences....there will be 2-3 from big 6-7 conferences that were the 4th or 5th best team in their conference (in bubble trouble) make a run for their respective conference or win it (tourney) outright, taking a potential slot away from us.

Watch the "bubble" teams from the top conferences that make the tourney get 7-8-9 seeds...(like, if they were a bubble team, why did they get such high seeds?). See above.
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Re: Updated RPI 1/17

Postby SMULaxer » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:05 pm

Give me seed 11-12-13 over 7-8-9 anyway
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