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[blackoutpony]

FTHP fails at reading comprehension for the 1,432nd time

Fatterson would never take a job at SMU if fired from TCU


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THERE YOU GO! And yes, I, gulp, actually agree with you

[East Coast Mustang]

FTHP fails at reading comprehension for the 1,432nd time

Fatterson would never take a job at SMU if fired from TCU


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THERE YOU GO! And yes, I, gulp, actually agree with you

Yeah, right. We're putting the cart before the horse here but if he gets canned at TCU and we had a vacancy he would absolutely consider it. It's another paycheck and he has a lot of familiarity with this area for recruiting purposes.

[malonish]

FTHP fails at reading comprehension for the 1,432nd time

Fatterson would never take a job at SMU if fired from TCU


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gulp

Was that a gulp of Mangria? Srsly did you try to get some yet? It's AMAZING.

[blackoutpony]

^ You're really into this stuff aren't you? Does it give you wings or make you see little green fairies?

[PlanoStang]

Why would you all want Patterson

Here's his recruiting record for the last 12 years or so.

SMU TCU

2002 #69 #80
2003 #62 #69
2004 #144 #89
2005 #82 #54
2006 #110 #60
2007 #99 #81

2008 #91 #97
2009 #81 #46
2010 #76 #46
2011 #50 #26
2012 #90 #37
2013 #71 #30
2014 #93 #66

Notice the gradual improvement of recruiting over the JJ years over that recruiting dynamo Bennett.

[malonish]

^ You're really into this stuff aren't you? Does it give you wings or make you see little green fairies?

It makes the world a better place when you forget about the football woes.

[Stallion]

I hate it when someone that doesn't know jack about recruiting tries to [deleted]. TCU has beat us in recruiting like a drum just about every single year for 24 years. TCU historically has taken small classes-those numbers are skewed. Take those same numbers and look at Average Per Recruit which really is more important. The schools taking 32 recruits are doing it because they have attrition, non-qualifiers, washouts. The fact is that TCU for a decade had one of the Top 1-2 non-BCS recruiting programs. The strength of the TCU program until 2012 was that they recruited well, kept players in school and developed their recruits. In both in 2012 and 2013 they lost 7-8 starters from OFF field issues in EACH year. That's been their downfall not recruiting.

[East Coast Mustang]

I hate it when someone that doesn't know jack about recruiting tries to [deleted]. TCU has beat us in recruiting like a drum just about every single year for 24 years. TCU historically has taken small classes-those numbers are skewed. Take those same numbers and look at Average Per Recruit which really is more important. The schools taking 32 recruits are doing it because they have attrition, non-qualifiers, washouts. The fact is that TCU for a decade had one of the Top 1-2 non-BCS recruiting programs. The strength of the TCU program until 2012 was that they recruited well, kept players in school and developed their recruits. In both in 2012 and 2013 they lost 7-8 starters from OFF field issues in EACH year. That's been their downfall not recruiting.

Not sure if you're talking to me, but do you honestly think Patterson can scout talent and coach well enough to sign a middle-of-the-road recruiting class in the Big 12 and still compete for the Big 12 title? Yeah, Briles did it, but I'd contend Briles is a lot better coach than Patterson- as evidenced by that Big 12 title he won this year. Also- you say that Rivals skews rankings because TCU has a small class- their avg. star ranking on Rivals is 2.56- just barely above Iowa State and Kansas, good for 8th out of 10 in the Big 12. And I wasn't comparing TCU's recruiting to SMU's and I don't know why any SMU fan would want to at this point. My point is, I know they were one of the top non-BCS teams in recruiting prior to joining the Big 12, but it's a lot easier to recruit well and beat up on Wyoming, Colorado State, and New Mexico and have your super bowl be one or two games vs BCS teams per year- it's another thing to have to play Texas, OU, Baylor, and OSU week in and week out in the Big 12.

[Stallion]

Analysis of TCU Recruiting Since 2002:

Basic Assumption-Class Rated Top 50 is Superlative for non BCS School; Top 60 is Outstanding, Top 70 is Great and Top 80 Good, 80 and above Average to Bad:

TCU(Average Per Recruit)( Number of Recruits)
2002 63(17)
2005 63(21)
2004 45(21)
2005 58(21)
2006 45(18)
2007 54(24)
2008 72(16)
2009, 2010, 2011 not going to waste my time because even under Total Points their class was Superlative

Note the small TCU Classes in parenthesis
By my count TCU had 5 Superlative Classes, 2 Outstanding Classes , 2 Classes at 63 which were close to outstanding but Great nontheless, and 1 in good category. We go over this every year-TCU drums us every year in recruiting

I'm not going go thru SMU's average per recruit because we generally sign large class but I see 0 Superlative Class, 1 Outstanding Class, 2 Great Classes, 2 Good Classes and 8 Classes from Average to Bad

[Stallion]

I hate it when someone that doesn't know jack about recruiting tries to [deleted]. TCU has beat us in recruiting like a drum just about every single year for 24 years. TCU historically has taken small classes-those numbers are skewed. Take those same numbers and look at Average Per Recruit which really is more important. The schools taking 32 recruits are doing it because they have attrition, non-qualifiers, washouts. The fact is that TCU for a decade had one of the Top 1-2 non-BCS recruiting programs. The strength of the TCU program until 2012 was that they recruited well, kept players in school and developed their recruits. In both in 2012 and 2013 they lost 7-8 starters from OFF field issues in EACH year. That's been their downfall not recruiting.

Not sure if you're talking to me, but do you honestly think Patterson can scout talent and coach well enough to sign a middle-of-the-road recruiting class in the Big 12 and still compete for the Big 12 title? Yeah, Briles did it, but I'd contend Briles is a lot better coach than Patterson- as evidenced by that Big 12 title he won this year. Also- you say that Rivals skews rankings because TCU has a small class- their avg. star ranking on Rivals is 2.56- just barely above Iowa State and Kansas, good for 8th out of 10 in the Big 12. And I wasn't comparing TCU's recruiting to SMU's and I don't know why any SMU fan would want to at this point. My point is, I know they were one of the top non-BCS teams in recruiting prior to joining the Big 12, but it's a lot easier to recruit well and beat up on Wyoming, Colorado State, and New Mexico and have your super bowl be one or two games vs BCS teams per year- it's another thing to have to play Texas, OU, Baylor, and OSU week in and week out in the Big 12.

I wasn't talking to you-but whoever said that I thought that TCU woiuld be contending for Big 12 titles. I think they can be competitive.

[Rebel10]

We just got a new commit.

[East Coast Mustang]

We just got a new commit.

5.2 2 star. Offers from Texas State and Nevada. Pop the champagne

[feelthehorsepower]

We just got a new commit.

5.2 2 star. Offers from Texas State and Nevada. Pop the champagne

[Rebel10]

We just got a new commit.

5.2 2 star. Offers from Texas State and Nevada. Pop the champagne

He indicated in a recent interview that the Nevada offer was pulled but UNT offered not long after the Nevada offer was pulled.

[feelthehorsepower]

We just got a new commit.

5.2 2 star. Offers from Texas State and Nevada. Pop the champagne

He indicated in a recent interview that the Nevada offer was pulled but UNT offered not long after the Nevada offer was pulled.

So Nevada didn't want him...wow