SMU will beat Baylor

[JudgeChamber]

-I’ll take our running backs Dorsey and Massey over whomever they have to offer.

Hmm... Against Big XII competition, Mosley has a 100 yard game and averages 4.6 yards per carry, playing in a backup role, starting only the last game of the year. He ended the year with 582 yards and 4 TDs. 6'3" 235 pounds, 4.5 40. Backup is Brandon Whitaker who runs a 4.4 40 and is up to

Your leading rusher was your backup QB. Dorsey ran for 431 with 2 TDs in 11 games and Massey ran for 16 yards and 0 TDs in 9 games. Noone on your team carried more than 100 times for the year.

Not sure where your confidence for the RB position is coming from.

-Receiving core: Push.

We have an All-Big XII WR in Zeigler, someone the publishers of the Big XII Rivals site said was the 4th best receiver in the conference, and a ton of depth. We have Teasley (4.38 in 40), Sims (super athletic), and Mikhail Baker (4.40 40) that are freshmen who are pushing for time in the corps. The fact that Gettis isn't with the team hurts, but there's no way that this position is a push with SMUs.

-Offensive and defensive lines: Push.

Big joke here.
Offensive Line
You're starting a true freshman due to injuries last I heard, and your backups include former defensive linemen. Phil Steele says that our line will be one of the most improved units in the nation, and CFN.com rates the unit a 5.5 and Baylor's a 7.

Defensive Line
Again, one of our most improved positions. CFN.com rates your line a 5.0 and ours a 6.0. DLine is definitely the weakest part of our defense, but there are a ton of young players that are stepping up big time and should see a lot of playing time, enough so that TRFR Trey Bryant (3* DT, 34th best in the nation) should be able to redshirt.

-That leaves the linebackers and defensive secondary… I think we all know that Bennett can do a hell of a lot with a defense, that’s healthy.

Why? What's he done? Your linebackers are undersized and your secondary is slow. We have what is widely recognized as the best safety tandem in the Big XII in Willie Andrews and Mo Lane, and we have a solid corps of cornerbacks. The secondary is the strongest position group on our team, which is saying something since it is ahead of our RBs which is very solid.

Our linebackers won't have the experienced depth we had last year, but they are much more athletic. We are starting a senior and a RSSO at LB, with another SR and RSFR after that. The athleticism of this position has taken a big step forward.

-Home field.

Is it still home field advantage if we outnumber you? What if it's a 1-to-1 ratio? Many of our players come from the DFW area, and it's Baptist Church Night. You don't get a much friendlier away game, if you ask me.

-Most importantly: Phil would beat that guy Guy in a stare down. Hell Phil would beat anybody; you just can’t compete with the 'stache.

Guy Morriss played offensive line in the NFL for 14 years. I hope Bennett behaves himself better than he did against Tech, or he's liable to be buried at Ford Stadium. Immediately upon reaching Morriss.

[abezontar]

what's bear cheese?

[JudgeChamber]

-I’ll take any of our QB’s over the Baylor Bellhop.

I forgot QBs....

Bell -
2004 -> QB Rating of 118.14 with 113 attempts, 60.2% completion rating for 544 yards and 6 TDs with 0 INTs. That's in basically two and a half games...

2003 -> QB Rating of 111.92 with 98 attempts, 61.2% completion percentage, for 576 yards and 1 TD and 1 INT, in three games.

SMU QBs -
2004 -> QB rating of 110.02 with 351 attempts, 54.4% completion rating, for 2296 yards and 11 TDs with 17 INTs, in 11 games.


Now, we can ALL admit that the competition that Baylor was facing was much, much, much more difficult that what the SMU QBs are going up against. There's really no comparison there. But even with the increased competition, Bell had a better QB rating for both years, a FAR better completion percentage, a FAR better TD:INT ratio, and let's not even begin to discuss the number of pass attempts per interception(20.6:1 for SMU; 211:1 for Bell, sorry, I couldn't resist). Bell has only thrown one interception (as a RSFR against OU in Norman) in his entire career.

Also, how many ranked teams have SMU QBs led their teams to wins over?

I'll take Bell, easily.

[WorldStang]

This game is going to be comedy..

Baylor actually coming to an away game thinking they can win. The Kentucky Con-artist posing as their coach.. and their best player is a punter!! Wonder why he's their best player.. because he gets the practice in all those "close" Big 12 games?

Watch as the Baylor secondary gets torched.. they're terrible!

Also.. the Baylor QB has stated how many games? I predict failure on his part.. perhaps he should stay in bed with the rest of the Baylor team with Strep.

Come one, come all Baylor people.. come watch your Bears lose again. Then go home.. far far away.. dreaming of that remarkable win over aggy.

[JasonB]

Your leading rusher was your backup QB. Dorsey ran for 431 with 2 TDs in 11 games and Massey ran for 16 yards and 0 TDs in 9 games. Noone on your team carried more than 100 times for the year.

Not sure where your confidence for the RB position is coming from.

Massey was a higher rated recruit than anyone on your team. He bulked up to much after injury, but will be the starter by the end of the year (not that it matters in the two back set). Our running game will be much improved with a more experienced o-line. Not saying our running game is better than baylor's, but it isn't going to be bad this year. Put I would definatly say Baylor has a more proven running game going into Saturday.

We have an All-Big XII WR in Zeigler, someone the publishers of the Big XII Rivals site said was the 4th best receiver in the conference, and a ton of depth. We have Teasley (4.38 in 40), Sims (super athletic), and Mikhail Baker (4.40 40) that are freshmen who are pushing for time in the corps. The fact that Gettis isn't with the team hurts, but there's no way that this position is a push with SMUs.

Baylor doesn't have a top tier receiving core. Neither does SMU. Our receivers are solid, and we have a lot of unknowns that need to be proven before we move up a level: Can Pellerin and Cleveland continue the progression from the end of last year? Or can Givens step in? Someone needs to step up opposite Bobby Chase. We are lacking a deep threat, can Lowery or Hawkins step up to the plate?

Baylor would have to be given the edge here going into the season.

Big joke here.
Offensive Line
You're starting a true freshman due to injuries last I heard, and your backups include former defensive linemen. Phil Steele says that our line will be one of the most improved units in the nation, and CFN.com rates the unit a 5.5 and Baylor's a 7.

Your informants are on crack. Check out the depth chart.

Our line will be decent, and definately an improvement over last year. Not worried about it, other than right guard. Is Keishnick pushed by Urbanus because of injury, or has Urbanus come into his own. We'll find out Saturday.

Defensive Line
Again, one of our most improved positions. CFN.com rates your line a 5.0 and ours a 6.0. DLine is definitely the weakest part of our defense, but there are a ton of young players that are stepping up big time and should see a lot of playing time, enough so that TRFR Trey Bryant (3* DT, 34th best in the nation) should be able to redshirt.

We both have a lot of unknowns here. Bonds should be good. Haywood couldn't cleanly beat out Denman, so that is a concern. Rumor has it we have done well here in practice, and coaches are excited, but nothing proven on the field. I would say this is a push from the standpoint that both teams are lining up unknowns.

Why? What's he done? Your linebackers are undersized and your secondary is slow. We have what is widely recognized as the best safety tandem in the Big XII in Willie Andrews and Mo Lane, and we have a solid corps of cornerbacks. The secondary is the strongest position group on our team, which is saying something since it is ahead of our RBs which is very solid.

Our linebackers won't have the experienced depth we had last year, but they are much more athletic. We are starting a senior and a RSSO at LB, with another SR and RSFR after that. The athleticism of this position has taken a big step forward.

Our linebackers are undersized, but we get a load of experience and some good players back that were injured. I think we will be okay there.

Our secondary will actually be quite good. The "slow" description off base. We have really good speed at corner, and a lot of fast, athletic depth. We are going to be pretty good at saftey as well. You might have the edge at secondary, becasue your safties are that good, but with our experience and speed we probably have an edge at linebacker. So, as a whole, this is a push.

Oh, one more thing not mentioned, that could be very important in a close game: special teams. SMU trots out a senior kicker and senior punter, both of whom are very good. And our return game is very athletic and fast. Our special teams are going to make some things happen this year.

I will also take two senior QBs over the Baylor hoodlums in the opening game of a season.

I think special teams and expirienced QB play lead the Mustangs to a close win this Saturday. 24-20.

[Stallion]

you know if you are going to say Baylor's secondary is "terrible" be ready to back it up. Baylor has two secondary players who have a shot at All-Conference. This whole board is degenerating into a bunch of rah rah cheerleaders who know little or nothing about college football making stupid predictions with no basis in fact. At least the Baylor fan made some decent points from which we might learn something. If you don't have a point, can't support it or don't know what you are talking about I wish you would just SHUT UP because this board is getting ANNOYING!.

[JudgeChamber]

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Massey was a higher rated recruit than anyone on your team. He bulked up to much after injury, but will be the starter by the end of the year (not that it matters in the two back set).
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He was a 5*? Amazing! We have a 4* RB (Paul Mosley), a bunch of 3* palyers, and another 4* WR in Gettis on the way. I didn't realize ya'll pulled Top 25 National recruits... "By the end of the year" is not the first game of the year. And that's what we're talking about.




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Baylor doesn't have a top tier receiving core. Neither does SMU. Our receivers are solid, and we have a lot of unknowns that need to be proven before we move up a level: Can Pellerin and Cleveland continue the progression from the end of last year? Or can Givens step in? Someone needs to step up opposite Bobby Chase. We are lacking a deep threat, can Lowery or Hawkins step up to the plate?

Baylor would have to be given the edge here going into the season.
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I agree that WR is your best position group on offense. Chase is a good player, but I don't know how he's going to get much production when we can bracket him with a corner and a safety, and use our other three DBs with the LBers in a zone package for the rest of the guys.
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Your informants are on crack. Check out the depth chart.

Our line will be decent, and definately an improvement over last year. Not worried about it, other than right guard. Is Keishnick pushed by Urbanus because of injury, or has Urbanus come into his own. We'll find out Saturday.
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I guess so, because all I see is a way-undersized group that didn't pave the way for any rushing or protect for passing, and didn't add anyone spectactular.


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We both have a lot of unknowns here. Bonds should be good. Haywood couldn't cleanly beat out Denman, so that is a concern. Rumor has it we have done well here in practice, and coaches are excited, but nothing proven on the field. I would say this is a push from the standpoint that both teams are lining up unknowns.
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I'd give you the push on the Dline, even though I still think we have a slight edge. I really liked your pickup of Haywood.


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Our linebackers are undersized, but we get a load of experience and some good players back that were injured. I think we will be okay there.

Our secondary will actually be quite good. The "slow" description off base. We have really good speed at corner, and a lot of fast, athletic depth. We are going to be pretty good at saftey as well. You might have the edge at secondary, becasue your safties are that good, but with our experience and speed we probably have an edge at linebacker. So, as a whole, this is a push.
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I think the secondary gives us the edge in this area, but we'll have to see on Saturday. There's no proven performances for the units as a whole, and maybe not enough information yet to make the call. We'll see.


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Oh, one more thing not mentioned, that could be very important in a close game: special teams. SMU trots out a senior kicker and senior punter, both of whom are very good. And our return game is very athletic and fast. Our special teams are going to make some things happen this year.
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I can't believe you just wrote that. Really. I'm blown away by it. Here are our special teams:
Kicker - Ryan Havens - delegated to kickoffs last year, has range out to 55 yards and is very accurate within 40.
Punter - Daniel Sepulveda - Ray Guy Award Winner, best punter in the nation, All-American, your guy isn't close.
Returner - Willie Andrews - Near consensus All-Big XII KR/PR, led the Big XII in both kickoff return average and punt return average, I believe.

There's no way this is even close to a push.


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I will also take two senior QBs over the Baylor hoodlums in the opening game of a season.
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Hoodlums? Are you serious? I'm not even sure what to do with this. I notice you didn't give any reasons you would, probably 'cause there aren't any, but still, this is bordering on ridiculous.

[Nacho]

SMU 44
Baylor 10

'nuff said.

[JudgeChamber]

Oh by the way, some evidence on the Massey commitment:

#39 RB in the nation according to Rivals in 2003.

Baylor's recruits that were ranked higher than Massey:
2002
Anthony Arline, #31 CB
Shawn Bell, #37 QB (the hoodlum you were referring to)
LQ McDonald, #32 OG
Paul Mosley, #24 ATH(RB/LB)

2003
Marcus Foreman, #34 WDE
Ryan Havens, #16 K

2005
Trey Bryant, #34 DT
David Gettis, #26 WR
Cordney Smith, #17 RB

[smupony]

JudgeChamber. Go away!! I can't read this crap any longer!!

I think you have redefined the term looser. Lurking around opposing team fan sites (the only place for SMU fans who have any spec of hope left) and talking smack? What does the Baylor Football program have to show? Hell there are probably only 30 people reading this anyway. That's including the other 20 lurking BU fans.

I don't give a damn how good you think your team is going to be and how pathetic you think we are. Last time I checked, neither one of us has anything to talk about.

You have a lot of views of what you "think" may happen. Everything you say is a calculated guess. Who gives a damn what you think? I can spout out 20 SMU player names(that you have never heard of) that I think will be the "best players ever and ever" but that doesn't mean anything.

Go take your slanted views and your two star All-Americans and start harassing Samford alums. You obviously have the SMU game in the bag.

How about "spreading the word" to some Army fan sites. You would be very popular there. Spouting nonsense about a Bennett/Morriss fight while their alums are doing the real thing.

Grow up and get a life. Use your time effectively and start planning the 2006 NFL Draft party for your star PUNTER!!

GO AWAY!!

[JudgeChamber]

Right so:

blah blah blah blah blah We don't have any good players. blah blah blah blah blah blah I have no reason to hope. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Please leave me in my misery. blah blah blah blah blah

I'm here because my team is playing your team in 4 days. I'll leave this board after coming back to tell you that your team played hard and it's too bad they had to lose so badly, and good luck with the rest of your schedule. That's how it works.

[JasonB]

I forgot about your punter, that is my fault completely. He is a very good player. Our special teams are going to be very good though. We do have a quality punter and an outstanding kicker, and a very good return team.

As far as QB is concerned, King would have been your starter, and he left the program. Besides the fact that it reminds me of our program , I would have to give our guys and edge with experience.

As Stallion would say, take place more credence in offers than ratings. Massey was offered by Miami, Texas, Georgia Tech, Arkansas, Colorado, Wisconsin, and a host of others. In fact, between him and Vincent Chase, those guys were offered by almost every college football power in the nation, and yet were only rated three stars because they committed to us. And if you notice, I said "by the end of the year" and then said "I would definatly say Baylor has a more proven running game going into Saturday". So, there is no need to be a pr!ck about it.

I don't care if folks from other programs come on our board. I enjoy the discourse, and some smack, and like to learn more about the opponent. But there is no need to freak on people just because you disagree, even thought you may be right about things. Communicate your points without being a jerk. There are going to be some folks on here who probably have too rosy of an attitude going into this season. But that is because it is an SMU bulletin board. if there weren't some rosy people, that would be sad wouldn't it? So lay off a bit, explain your points to help people calm down their expectations, and be cool about it. There is no reason to get ticked off just because people are off in their own little happy place.

SMU ain't gonna blow out Baylor, but Baylor isn't gonna blow out SMU either. Unless the turnovers start flying, this is going to be a close game. Both teams sucked two years ago in one of the worst football games ever played. And both teams are a lot better since then. It will be fun to see which program has improved the most.

When you look at the last recruiting classes, Baylor and SMU are pretty close, even though according to Rivals SMU comes ahead each of the last two years.

I think that since Bennett has been at SMU one more year than Morriss has been in Wackoland, it puts SMU a step ahead. Granted, we started the race by giving a 500 yard head start , but those initial recruits are juniors and seniors now, we are going to be a better football team this year, and we are going to beat you guys at home.

[WorldStang]

you know if you are going to say Baylor's secondary is "terrible" be ready to back it up. Baylor has two secondary players who have a shot at All-Conference. This whole board is degenerating into a bunch of rah rah cheerleaders who know little or nothing about college football making stupid predictions with no basis in fact. At least the Baylor fan made some decent points from which we might learn something. If you don't have a point, can't support it or don't know what you are talking about I wish you would just SHUT UP because this board is getting ANNOYING!.

I went to 4 of Baylor's games last year and watched them get torched in the passing game. Willie Andrews is all they have back there.. period! Perhaps you need to just stick to watching Sand Aggy games or diagnosing how terrible SMU's last 20 years have been. You're the authority of the armchair AD, coach and everything else right?

For someone that spends so much time on SMU football, recruiting, finger-pointing at our coaches, fans and players.. It's understandable that you don't know more about other teams. What have you done except B1tch on this board about SMU?

And for the record.. there was nothing "rah rah" about my post.

Perhaps you're the one that needs to "SHUT UP" .. you've always been "ANNOYING".

[JudgeChamber]

you know if you are going to say Baylor's secondary is "terrible" be ready to back it up. Baylor has two secondary players who have a shot at All-Conference. This whole board is degenerating into a bunch of rah rah cheerleaders who know little or nothing about college football making stupid predictions with no basis in fact. At least the Baylor fan made some decent points from which we might learn something. If you don't have a point, can't support it or don't know what you are talking about I wish you would just SHUT UP because this board is getting ANNOYING!.

I went to 4 of Baylor's games last year and watched them get torched in the passing game. Willie Andrews is all they have back there.. period! Perhaps you need to just stick to watching Sand Aggy games or diagnosing how terrible SMU's last 20 years have been. You're the authority of the armchair AD, coach and everything else right?

For someone that spends so much time on SMU football, recruiting, finger-pointing at our coaches, fans and players.. It's understandable that you don't know more about other teams. What have you done except B1tch on this board about SMU?

And for the record.. there was nothing "rah rah" about my post.

Perhaps you're the one that needs to "SHUT UP" .. you've always been "ANNOYING".

Maurice Lane was All-Big XII last year, but he's nothing right? What about Braelon Davis, who was All-Big XII Freshman team? He won't be playing because of injury, but he was out there last year. We'll see how good this year's Baylor Secondary is, but it definitely won't be terrible.

[WorldStang]

you know if you are going to say Baylor's secondary is "terrible" be ready to back it up. Baylor has two secondary players who have a shot at All-Conference. This whole board is degenerating into a bunch of rah rah cheerleaders who know little or nothing about college football making stupid predictions with no basis in fact. At least the Baylor fan made some decent points from which we might learn something. If you don't have a point, can't support it or don't know what you are talking about I wish you would just SHUT UP because this board is getting ANNOYING!.

I went to 4 of Baylor's games last year and watched them get torched in the passing game. Willie Andrews is all they have back there.. period! Perhaps you need to just stick to watching Sand Aggy games or diagnosing how terrible SMU's last 20 years have been. You're the authority of the armchair AD, coach and everything else right?

For someone that spends so much time on SMU football, recruiting, finger-pointing at our coaches, fans and players.. It's understandable that you don't know more about other teams. What have you done except B1tch on this board about SMU?

And for the record.. there was nothing "rah rah" about my post.

Perhaps you're the one that needs to "SHUT UP" .. you've always been "ANNOYING".

Right he's not playing. I know he's solid.. but he's not out there for you guys. I should have mentioned I was accounting for that..