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Shipp doubling down

Postby Tbuck12 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:51 pm

DISD/SMU defend basketball player's grades while audit says he never should have graduated. What do the facts say?
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby CenTXpony » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:24 pm

Such a hack and a troll.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby NavyCrimson » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:41 pm

SMU & the NCAA use the info that's provided. If it wasn't SMU, it would be another school at this time in the cross-hairs. But then again, would it really be another or is this merely a vendetta against SMU? Hmm? Makes you wonder???

Sounds like a DISD problem.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby Pony147 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:01 pm

They just teased the story at the beginning of the newscast
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby shadowman » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:04 pm

Yep, mentioned at the very top as coming up. Here we go!
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby SMU 86 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:09 pm

That wasn't too bad.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby Top Twenty » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:12 pm

Nothing to see here. Move on.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby Pony147 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:12 pm

SMU 86 wrote:That wasn't too bad.


Agreed. They made it significantly more about DISD than us
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby CalallenStang » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:12 pm

LOL. Essentially said that he has nothing
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby shadowman » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:15 pm

I still have fears this is going to affect Frazier's eligibility. A coach was fired for changing his grade and other Kimball employees were reprimanded. This audit was not about other students, it was about Frazier alone. DISD said a more broad investigation may be needed to see if other students benefited.

Someone was fired for changing a grade and the Principal said on the record that it was "highly probable Frazier should not have graduated". Another official went on record in the audit as saying his absences should have kept him from graduating.

SMU is not on the hook for this, we did not know. But now we have a report that says there are questions and some wrongdoing and at least one person was fired for it. All having to do with Frazier.

I think it does not look very good for Frazier and his eligibility.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby PonyFan32 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:27 pm

shadowman wrote:I still have fears this is going to affect Frazier's eligibility. A coach was fired for changing his grade and other Kimball employees were reprimanded. This audit was not about other students, it was about Frazier alone. DISD said a more broad investigation may be needed to see if other students benefited.

Someone was fired for changing a grade and the Principal said on the record that it was "highly probable Frazier should not have graduated". Another official went on record in the audit as saying his absences should have kept him from graduating.

SMU is not on the hook for this, we did not know. But now we have a report that says there are questions and some wrongdoing and at least one person was fired for it. All having to do with Frazier.

I think it does not look very good for Frazier and his eligibility.


I don't see how you can be so certain Frazier's in trouble. It's pretty remarkable that the new online story says DISD claims Frazier did what was necessary to graduate, despite the principal's quote in the report. We all know the NCAA can be unpredictable, but I have a hard time believing they would take away Frazier's eligibility without something more substantive than this.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby gostangs » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:28 pm

Disagree. The audit was about way more than Keith - no idea how you say otherwise.

Whether they should have or not, Keith graduated, and they aren't taking his diploma back. Not our issue, and he should be clear to go.

Have a backbone. This is not your fathers SMU basketball. We play with the big boys or not. There is nothing in between.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby Top Twenty » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:29 pm

You are wrong. Senior administrators met with Keith today and told him that they support him fully and that he is not to worry for a minute. Concentrate on your studies and b-ball was the message of the day.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby ponyscott » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:30 pm

Shipp backtracked.....hes a hack.
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Re: Shipp doubling down

Postby Pony_Law » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:30 pm

Shadowman, two peoples opinion about what should or should not have happened are irrelevant. At the end of the day DISD decided to certify KF graduation. Thus, as a fact KF qualified for graduation and graduated. Additionally the report was about way more students then KF it was about long running problems at kimball. In case you are unaware school administrators are evaluated and receive funding and advancement based on how well the school performs thus many failing schools are desperate to graduate students and avoid failing kids at all costs. Smu and the NCAA review KF's school recorded and rendered a decision that he met smu and NCAA requirements to be eligible to play. Question asked and answered, accept the good news.
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