Grades

[ponydawg]

/DROPS MIC

[blackoutpony]

This thread should be deleted

[malonish]

[ponyte]

One wonders about the identifying of a specific kid and announcing his grades? Isn't their a law protecting the student's right to privacy? HIPPA defines identifiable characteristics and one can't use any without written permission. Thus, the use of a kid's athletic honors (All- American, top 5 recruit), his school how be a clear HIPPA violation. Wouldn't DISD be liable for disclosing KF's grade history?

Seems SMU should provide KF a lawyer, use attorney client privilege to protect the arrangement, and go after DISD, WFAA and anyone else violating this kid's privacy rights.

[MeanGreen90]

Let me start by saying that unlike many of my brethren, I hold no I'll will toward your program or your fan base. I think we are similar in many ways, yet also very different.

It really concerns me to see some of your fans posts on here, though. It looks now that it will amount to nothing, but before some of you knew that, you were already going into full protection mode, wanting to hire attorneys and deny that the sun comes up every morning if necessary in order to protect yourselves. Seems you learned nothing from the 80s.

SMU wasn't given the death penalty because they cheated, SMU was given the death penalty because they not only continued to cheat, but used the exact tactics that many of you are calling for in this thread: denial and evasiveness.

Just admit the sin, correct it, and move on. Best policy in sports and in life.

I do think you guys are headed for probation with your basketball program. Not because I hate SMU (I don't), not because of this scandal, but because that is what has happened to every program that has hired Larry Brown in the last 20 years.

[hoopmanx]

Let me start by saying that unlike many of my brethren, I hold no I'll will toward your program or your fan base. I think we are similar in many ways, yet also very different.

It really concerns me to see some of your fans posts on here, though. It looks now that it will amount to nothing, but before some of you knew that, you were already going into full protection mode, wanting to hire attorneys and deny that the sun comes up every morning if necessary in order to protect yourselves. Seems you learned nothing from the 80s.

SMU wasn't given the death penalty because they cheated, SMU was given the death penalty because they not only continued to cheat, but used the exact tactics that many of you are calling for in this thread: denial and evasiveness.

Just admit the sin, correct it, and move on. Best policy in sports and in life.

I do think you guys are headed for probation with your basketball program. Not because I hate SMU (I don't), not because of this scandal, but because that is what has happened to every program that has hired Larry Brown in the last 20 years.

That's the part of the reaction I actually liked. Rallying around family, protecting the program. Need more of that...carry on mean greenie

[East Coast Mustang]

Let me start by saying that unlike many of my brethren, I hold no I'll will toward your program or your fan base. I think we are similar in many ways, yet also very different.

It really concerns me to see some of your fans posts on here, though. It looks now that it will amount to nothing, but before some of you knew that, you were already going into full protection mode, wanting to hire attorneys and deny that the sun comes up every morning if necessary in order to protect yourselves. Seems you learned nothing from the 80s.

SMU wasn't given the death penalty because they cheated, SMU was given the death penalty because they not only continued to cheat, but used the exact tactics that many of you are calling for in this thread: denial and evasiveness.

Just admit the sin, correct it, and move on. Best policy in sports and in life.

I do think you guys are headed for probation with your basketball program. Not because I hate SMU (I don't), not because of this scandal, but because that is what has happened to every program that has hired Larry Brown in the last 20 years.

SMU was given the death penalty because we weren't Texas or A&M yet were a threat to them in the early 80s. SMU did nothing wrong in this current instance, and a reporter is trying to drag SMU's name and one of our players through the mud to get publicity for a story which primarily concerns the DISD.

[Rebel10]

Let me start by saying that unlike many of my brethren, I hold no I'll will toward your program or your fan base. I think we are similar in many ways, yet also very different.

It really concerns me to see some of your fans posts on here, though. It looks now that it will amount to nothing, but before some of you knew that, you were already going into full protection mode, wanting to hire attorneys and deny that the sun comes up every morning if necessary in order to protect yourselves. Seems you learned nothing from the 80s.

SMU wasn't given the death penalty because they cheated, SMU was given the death penalty because they not only continued to cheat, but used the exact tactics that many of you are calling for in this thread: denial and evasiveness.

Just admit the sin, correct it, and move on. Best policy in sports and in life.

I do think you guys are headed for probation with your basketball program. Not because I hate SMU (I don't), not because of this scandal, but because that is what has happened to every program that has hired Larry Brown in the last 20 years.

Dude, we were saying that because nothing was proven against the SMU doing wrong. If something had been proven it would have been a different story. So there was no sin the correct. Also, the bible says to judge not lest ye be judged. It looks like you have judged us already on the Frazier situation. Seems like you have some shortcoming that you need to correct.

[LA_Mustang]

It's the return of MGGem.

Let's move on to something important, USF.

[PonyKris89]

Let me start by saying that unlike many of my brethren, I hold no I'll will toward your program or your fan base. I think we are similar in many ways, yet also very different.

It really concerns me to see some of your fans posts on here, though. It looks now that it will amount to nothing, but before some of you knew that, you were already going into full protection mode, wanting to hire attorneys and deny that the sun comes up every morning if necessary in order to protect yourselves. Seems you learned nothing from the 80s.

SMU wasn't given the death penalty because they cheated, SMU was given the death penalty because they not only continued to cheat, but used the exact tactics that many of you are calling for in this thread: denial and evasiveness.

Just admit the sin, correct it, and move on. Best policy in sports and in life.

I do think you guys are headed for probation with your basketball program. Not because I hate SMU (I don't), not because of this scandal, but because that is what has happened to every program that has hired Larry Brown in the last 20 years.

…so what you are saying is SMU should have just taken it up the Arse from Shipp and enjoyed it… great advice!

obviously, the posters here were correct in their outrage, and our response has nothing to do with the Dumbasses that continued the illegal payments in the 80's. Not a very good analogy, MeanGrean.

[StallionsModelT]

Yeah I'm sure if wild accusations with no proof or evidence were thrown at UNT your entire message board would've been just fine and dandy with it right? Please dude.

As to your last point, um, how many programs have hired Larry Brown in the past twenty years? To try and make any sort of connection to the rallying on here behind our program to the coverup of the pay for play scandal in the 80's is beyond stupid.

Good luck in C-USA. Thank God we got out when we did. We will continue to play all of our revenue sporting events on ESPN, sellout Moody consistently, put together a national title contending squad, and (hopefully) fire Jones after this season and get football back on track. Enjoy the Sun Belt 2.0 (especially with the departure of ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane).

[East Coast Mustang]

MeanGreen90 = Travis Bickle?

[smusic 00]

Didn't know the NBA had teams on probation. Thanks for the insight.

[StallionsModelT]

Something you will never hear:

"Mom! Dad! Guess what?!?! I just got into UNT!!!!"

[StallionsModelT]

"I think we are similar in many ways."

Similar in that one school has:

$1.4 billion endowment
U.S. News top 60 academic institution
World class business school
Top 50 law school
Presidential Library
$1 billion fundraising effort
$47 million renovation to Moody making it the best college bball arena in Texas
Larry Brown

while the other has:

Fry Street