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by SMU 86 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:25 pm
Texas wins.
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by CoxMustangFan » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:33 pm
UT has a pretty good team. Love Taylor's game. That said, if you would have told the average KU fan on Jan 1st that after playing @ OU, ISU x 2, @ UT, host KSU, host OSU, host Baylor that they would only have only one loss, they'd take it. I think.
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by OhioBrownFan » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:43 pm
CoxMustangFan wrote:UT has a pretty good team. Love Taylor's game. That said, if you would have told the average KU fan on Jan 1st that after playing @ OU, ISU x 2, @ UT, host KSU, host OSU, host Baylor that they would only have only one loss, they'd take it. I think.
Agreed. That teams a 1 seed in my opinion regardless of records right now. That team is really playing well minus today's issues. And not too many teams would come out of that stretch with only 1 loss.
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by mustangxc » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:00 pm
OhioBrownFan wrote:mustangxc wrote:I hope UT wins big this year. The last thing we need is for them to struggle and try to poach our ace recruiters before we truly do something to get noticed.
I'm not sure if you worded this wrong but the best thing that could possibly happen for SMU is Texas to completely F it up and Barnes to get fired. Why would you ever want the better basketball school to be successful within the same state? Texas has the better basketball history recently and Barnes has put countless guys into the NBA. You don't want them to be successful, hell he's pull 4* top 100 players even in their bad years and him not knowing if he will have a job next year.
No, I mean it. I do not want Texas to clean house on their coaching staff and have them come after members of our staff.
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by OhioBrownFan » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:32 pm
mustangxc wrote:OhioBrownFan wrote:mustangxc wrote:I hope UT wins big this year. The last thing we need is for them to struggle and try to poach our ace recruiters before we truly do something to get noticed.
I'm not sure if you worded this wrong but the best thing that could possibly happen for SMU is Texas to completely F it up and Barnes to get fired. Why would you ever want the better basketball school to be successful within the same state? Texas has the better basketball history recently and Barnes has put countless guys into the NBA. You don't want them to be successful, hell he's pull 4* top 100 players even in their bad years and him not knowing if he will have a job next year.
No, I mean it. I do not want Texas to clean house on their coaching staff and have them come after members of our staff.
Pay more. Every staff loses assistants, it's a good thing to lose assistants. For one, means the program is successful. Two, the next up and coming assistant sees that LB keeps putting his assistants in better jobs therefore want to work for him. Three, it also ensures that nobody grows stale. Obviously you don't want turnover every single year, but coaching attrition is a very good thing. Anything more than 3 years for an assistant is too long without at least a title change or more responsibility. The only two that really matter on the staff are LB, who's not going anywhere, and Jankovich. LB will find more than sufficient replacements after they watch someone from his staff land a HC gig or top assistant for Texas. No different than him bringing Jankovich along for the ride, I mean that guy stepped down from a pretty good program to be an assistant in waiting. That's almost unheard of.
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by StandUp » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:56 pm
Headline News on ESPN.com! Got to love it! "SMU upsets Memphis to stay perfect at home" Pony Up! Way to go Mustangs! To all the haters on ponyfans.com who ripped my post last week when I brought up our Home Winning Streak, if our Home Winning Streak is good enough news for ESPN then that is good enough for me! To the same posters who question my basketball knowledge... A couple of months ago I mentioned that I wanted Sterling Brown in our Starting 5. I think that Sterling has started the last 8 games. He was the difference maker today. His energy, high basketball IQ, and non-stop motor are infectous! His 3 point stroke is pretty good too. 
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by mustangxc » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:25 pm
OhioBrownFan wrote:Pay more. Every staff loses assistants, it's a good thing to lose assistants. For one, means the program is successful. Two, the next up and coming assistant sees that LB keeps putting his assistants in better jobs therefore want to work for him. Three, it also ensures that nobody grows stale. Obviously you don't want turnover every single year, but coaching attrition is a very good thing. Anything more than 3 years for an assistant is too long without at least a title change or more responsibility. The only two that really matter on the staff are LB, who's not going anywhere, and Jankovich. LB will find more than sufficient replacements after they watch someone from his staff land a HC gig or top assistant for Texas. No different than him bringing Jankovich along for the ride, I mean that guy stepped down from a pretty good program to be an assistant in waiting. That's almost unheard of.
I understand your point, but I think we need 2-3 years of success before it happens. We lost Howard last year which was not a problem, but losing Maligi would be. I think losing Jankovich would not hurt, but losing Maligi would. To me, Maligi is our most important assistant. He is the coach I am afraid UT would come after. In a few years we will be able to overcome that loss, but not yet.
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by PonyFan32 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:23 pm
StandUp wrote:Headline News on ESPN.com! Got to love it! "SMU upsets Memphis to stay perfect at home" Pony Up! Way to go Mustangs! To all the haters on ponyfans.com who ripped my post last week when I brought up our Home Winning Streak, if our Home Winning Streak is good enough news for ESPN then that is good enough for me! To the same posters who question my basketball knowledge... A couple of months ago I mentioned that I wanted Sterling Brown in our Starting 5. I think that Sterling has started the last 8 games. He was the difference maker today. His energy, high basketball IQ, and non-stop motor are infectous! His 3 point stroke is pretty good too. 
A couple of observations: 1. I thought much of the criticism you took for your posts was over the top and silly. 2. I don't think anyone wants to hear about how you were so right on this or nailed your prediction on that when we just watched our team dominate a top team. Let's please rally around the team and leave the self-justification for a day when we didn't destroy the #22 in the country.
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by StandUp » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:01 am
1) Thank you for your acknowledgement of the over the top ridiculous hate on this board.
2) Understood. Great win! Go Mustangs!
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by PonyFan32 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:22 am
StandUp wrote:1) Thank you for your acknowledgement of the over the top ridiculous hate on this board.
2) Understood. Great win! Go Mustangs!
Glad you're posting on here! Agreed. Go Mustangs!
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by OhioBrownFan » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:18 am
mustangxc wrote:OhioBrownFan wrote:Pay more. Every staff loses assistants, it's a good thing to lose assistants. For one, means the program is successful. Two, the next up and coming assistant sees that LB keeps putting his assistants in better jobs therefore want to work for him. Three, it also ensures that nobody grows stale. Obviously you don't want turnover every single year, but coaching attrition is a very good thing. Anything more than 3 years for an assistant is too long without at least a title change or more responsibility. The only two that really matter on the staff are LB, who's not going anywhere, and Jankovich. LB will find more than sufficient replacements after they watch someone from his staff land a HC gig or top assistant for Texas. No different than him bringing Jankovich along for the ride, I mean that guy stepped down from a pretty good program to be an assistant in waiting. That's almost unheard of.
I understand your point, but I think we need 2-3 years of success before it happens. We lost Howard last year which was not a problem, but losing Maligi would be. I think losing Jankovich would not hurt, but losing Maligi would. To me, Maligi is our most important assistant. He is the coach I am afraid UT would come after. In a few years we will be able to overcome that loss, but not yet.
For one, I completely understand where you're coming from even though I'm in disagreement on the bigger scale. I don't know enough about their roles in the day to day activities as both teachers and developers of personnel to their recruiting responsibilities to speak intelligently about the assistants. But considering Jankovich is the Assistant HC and HC in-waiting, doesn't that mean he's pretty important, at least to Brown? Anyways, I think you'll drive yourself nuts if you worry about coaches leaving. As long as the framework is there, you're in pretty good shape. Coaching trees are a huge, huge deal and something their very proud of. I'm sure Brown would love to continue to add to his. If it wasn't for the coaching tree he's built over the years, he wouldn't have some of the assistants on board at SMU that he does right now because they never would've came in the first place. IMO it's not worth it to get worked up over because even though you might lose a good coach, you bring in a better one with different ideas and Brown gets to continue to learn.
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by OhioBrownFan » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:19 am
PonyFan32 wrote:StandUp wrote:1) Thank you for your acknowledgement of the over the top ridiculous hate on this board.
2) Understood. Great win! Go Mustangs!
Glad you're posting on here! Agreed. Go Mustangs!
Agreed.
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by mustangxc » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:54 am
OhioBrownFan wrote:I don't know enough about their roles in the day to day activities as both teachers and developers of personnel to their recruiting responsibilities to speak intelligently about the assistants. But considering Jankovich is the Assistant HC and HC in-waiting, doesn't that mean he's pretty important, at least to Brown? Anyways, I think you'll drive yourself nuts if you worry about coaches leaving. As long as the framework is there, you're in pretty good shape. Coaching trees are a huge, huge deal and something their very proud of. I'm sure Brown would love to continue to add to his. If it wasn't for the coaching tree he's built over the years, he wouldn't have some of the assistants on board at SMU that he does right now because they never would've came in the first place. IMO it's not worth it to get worked up over because even though you might lose a good coach, you bring in a better one with different ideas and Brown gets to continue to learn.
Trust me, we don't land Frazier or Mudiay without him. Just like Houston doesn't land House or Knowles without him. Jankovich is here because the SMU administration did not feel comfortable hiring Larry Brown without a head coach in waiting. As long as Brown stays a few years, he is not really needed. Don't get me wrong, he is an extremely valuable asset, but in terms of coaching we have everything we need with Brown. We need help with recruiting, which Maligi does for us in Texas. At the end of the day I don't worry about coaches leaving. I only worry about wins and losses. Keep winning and I won't sweat it.
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by feelthehorsepower » Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:55 am
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