ESPN - student attendance a problem EVERYWHERE

[sbsmith]

I'd like to request the Mods run an IP check to see who in this thread is a duplicate poster.

I second this.

PP, Web, and Smoo, you got this?

They're probably going to let it get up to about 10 aliases before they do something

[blackoutpony]

Maybe it's because I am not a "troll"? Look man I don't know what I did to you to all of a sudden warrant all this attention from you. You two just happen to be the first inquisitors into the "Cougar King" witch hunt and anyone that does not agree with you or thinks differently is either CK using another alias or FTHP or you just randomly come up with FTHP=CK=StandUp etc.

My reaction to your accusations is pretty much a consequence of seeing how you tear apart other fellow SMU fans and how I just happen to be your next victim.

I will tell you this: drop it. Calm down and let it go, because it could get ugly. You should focus on what unites us as SMU alumni and the other things we might have in common and not your hunches against people. And to add a bit of psych analysis, you seem pretty insecure which helps explain your love for trying to put others down. And by all means do an ip scan, I would like to see who CK is too...

Good Morning and #BeatHouston
At least I will taste redemption today.

So uninformed and emotional.....

I'm not worried about you Mr. FeelTheBig12ClownStangPower, but troll on if you must

[Big12Mustang]

Maybe it's because I am not a "troll"? Look man I don't know what I did to you to all of a sudden warrant all this attention from you. You two just happen to be the first inquisitors into the "Cougar King" witch hunt and anyone that does not agree with you or thinks differently is either CK using another alias or FTHP or you just randomly come up with FTHP=CK=StandUp etc.

My reaction to your accusations is pretty much a consequence of seeing how you tear apart other fellow SMU fans and how I just happen to be your next victim.

I will tell you this: drop it. Calm down and let it go, because it could get ugly. You should focus on what unites us as SMU alumni and the other things we might have in common and not your hunches against people. And to add a bit of psych analysis, you seem pretty insecure which helps explain your love for trying to put others down. And by all means do an ip scan, I would like to see who CK is too...

Good Morning and #BeatHouston
At least I will taste redemption today.

So uninformed and emotional.....

I'm not worried about you Mr. FeelTheBig12ClownStangPower, but troll on if you must

Wow you really are a troll!

[PonyKris89]

Football is my favorite sport, especially College Football, but it is the least accomodating in terms of fan attendance. The majority of it is outside, while basketball and hockey is almost all indoors. It happens in either the superhot weather or the supercold, I tend to think the fans are the most obnoxious, and it's the worst fight to try to get into a stadium of any sport due simply to the idea of as many as 100,000 people or more trying to fight their way in.

I expect to see the TV ratings continue to climb, but actual fan attendance to drop in the future.

…"it's the worst fight to try to get into a stadium of any sport due simply to the idea of as many as 100,000 people or more trying to fight their way in. "…

This kinda reminds me of the old Yogi Berra comment, "Yeah, nobody goes there anymore, it's just too crowded"...

[Big12Mustang]

Football is my favorite sport, especially College Football, but it is the least accomodating in terms of fan attendance. The majority of it is outside, while basketball and hockey is almost all indoors. It happens in either the superhot weather or the supercold, I tend to think the fans are the most obnoxious, and it's the worst fight to try to get into a stadium of any sport due simply to the idea of as many as 100,000 people or more trying to fight their way in.

I expect to see the TV ratings continue to climb, but actual fan attendance to drop in the future.

…"it's the worst fight to try to get into a stadium of any sport due simply to the idea of as many as 100,000 people or more trying to fight their way in. "…

This kinda reminds me of the old Yogi Berra comment, "Yeah, nobody goes there anymore, it's just too crowded"...

That is the kind of great problem that I want SMU to have. I prefer people complaining about how crowded it is to enter Ford than the current apathy the program has sunk itself in.

[dr rc]

3) First two games will be at 6PM (Texas A&M, TCU)

Wait what? You know this how? You realize that TV times are a loooong way from being set don't you?

Historically that has been the case with those two opponents. I guess I should have put "probably be at 6pm"

Traditionally? What? No. That isnt how scheduling for TV works. When SMU had the string of 7pm games with TCU both were in different conferences. Using those games to predict game times doesn't work b/c the TV deals were different. The two recent A&M games played around 6 were both at A&M and subject the then Big12 and SEC tv deals both of which are no longer the same. For instance, the Big12 now has games on Fox and FS1 while in 2011 they were only on ABC, ESPN, FSSW, and later in the season FX.

With both games being at home this year we need to know the details of the AAC tv deal as well as what ESPNs other obligations entail.

What we don't know going into this year is how many AAC games ESPN plans to air on its networks each Saturday. We don't know how many or even when in the season CBS Sports gets their inventory that they bought from ESPN. We don't know how many games the AAC Net syndicated package still has. W don't know what time ESPN or the other networks will even have available due to other contractual obligations. Most importantly, we don't know what the order is for picking games. Does it go ESPN, CBS Sports, AAC Net, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNews?

For example, up until this year with the new SEC Network changing things the SEC order went

1. CBS Game of the Week- 2:30 (plus two double headers, one at 11am, one at 7pm)
2. ESPN-Primetime
3. ESPN 2-Primetime
4. FSS-Primetime
5. SEC Netwok(formerly Raycom/Lincoln Financial/Jefferson Pilot)-11:30 a.m.
6. ESPNU-Primetime
7. ESPNU-Noon
8. CSS-Afternoon
9. PPV-6ish

Until the pecking order, number of daily games, and this years conference schedule dates are released its pretty much impossible to guess the game times.

it's the worst fight to try to get into a stadium of any sport due simply to the idea of as many as 100,000 people or more trying to fight their way in.

There are only 7 CFB stadiums that have a capacity of 100k+. Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas, and starting this year, Texas A&M.

Having been to many games at huge stadiums like Kyle Field, DKR, Tiger Stadium (LSU), Jerry World, the Cotton Bowl, etc I really don't see why it's much of a problem or fight to get in. Waiting in line for 10 minutes isn't exactly Chinese water torture. Often the bigger pain in the [deleted] has been at smaller stadiums that dont normally fill up like Baylor's Floyd Casey b/c they aren't used to the high amounts of foot traffic for big games.

[Big12Mustang]

Wait what? You know this how? You realize that TV times are a loooong way from being set don't you?

Historically that has been the case with those two opponents. I guess I should have put "probably be at 6pm"

Traditionally? What? No. That isnt how scheduling for TV works. When SMU had the string of 7pm games with TCU both were in different conferences. Using those games to predict game times doesn't work b/c the TV deals were different. The two recent A&M games played around 6 were both at A&M and subject the then Big12 and SEC tv deals both of which are no longer the same. For instance, the Big12 now has games on Fox and FS1 while in 2011 they were ESPN, FSSW, and later in the season FX.

With both games being at home this year we need to know the details of the AAC tv deal as well as what ESPNs other obligations entail.

What we don't know going into this year is how many AAC games ESPN plans to air on its networks each Saturday. We don't know how many or even when in the season CBS Sports gets their inventory that they bought from ESPN. We don't know how many games the AAC Net syndicated package still has. W don't know what time ESPN or the other networks will even have available due to other contractual obligations. Most importantly, we don't know what the order is for picking games. Does It go ESPN, CBS Sports, AAC Net, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNews?

For example, up until this year with the new SEC Network changing things the SEC order went

1. CBS Game of the Week- 2:30 (plus two double headers, one at 11am, one at 7pm)
2. ESPN-Primetime
3. ESPN 2-Primetime
4. FSS-Primetime
5. SEC Netwok(formerly Raycom/Lincoln Financial/Jefferson Pilot)-11:30 a.m.
6. ESPNU-Primetime
7. ESPNU-Noon
8. CSS-Afternoon
9. PPV-6ish

Until the pecking order, number of daily games, and this years conference schedule dates are released its pretty much impossible to guess the game times.




[quote="leopold wrote: it's the worst fight to try to get into a stadium of any sport due simply to the idea of as many as 100,000 people or more trying to fight their way in.

There are only 7 CFB stadiums that have a capacity of 100k+. Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Tennessee, Alabama, Texas, and starting this year, Texas A&M.

Having been to many games at huge stadiums like Kyle Field, DKR, Tiger Stadium (LSU), Jerry World, the Cotton Bowl, etc I really don't see why it's much of a problem or fight to get in. Waiting in line for 10 minutes isn't exactly Chinese water torture. Often the bigger pain in the [deleted] has been at smaller stadiums that dont normally fill up like Baylor's Floyd Casey b/c they aren't used to the high amounts of foot traffic.[/quote]

Thanks for clearing it up for me. I was not intending to set in stone that we will play at 6PM...I said historically we have played them at that time. At least these last few years.

[Stallion]

College Stadiums at most major universities are getting much bigger not smaller. If the students don't want to go there is more often alumni or other fans willing to take their place. It is somewhat ironic that SMU Basketball is now overwhelmingly popular after SMU restricted the size of the student section. There may be some question as to whether current students will become future fans in the information age but right now College Football is as Big and Popular as ever at the major schools. SMU will have to find a way to compete with that if it wants to remain a big time program.