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by Deep Purple » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:44 pm
SoCal_Pony wrote:Trash our football team all day long, but there are only 4 universities in Texas worth attending....Rice UT A&M and SMU....
Self-flattery to the point of self-deception does not make your case for you. It really discredits it.
According to all the rankings, SMU is not in the same class as Rice or UT. SMU is in the same class as A&M, TCU, and Baylor.
Facts is facts.
These Frogs have horns!
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by SoCal_Pony » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:51 pm
I make more $ from dividends in a year than you do in salary...deal with it...and I am not among the 'Rich' at SMU
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by SWC2010 » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:00 pm
[quote="Deep Purple"]... Yet here I sit in my spacious hillside home in southwest Fort Worth. I look out past my swimming pool to the golf course in the valley below, then miles of rising ranchland beyond, with a brilliant sunset silhouetting a windmill on the opposite hill. Cactus and wildflowers are scattered across the slope. Soon I will see deer and wild turkeys passing by on the way to their nightly feed. When the sun slips below the opposite hill, the fireflies will begin rising in waves across my little acre, and I'll hear an occasional coyote howl as the moon rises.
(sigh) I can hardly stand all this ugliness. [quote]
Sounds nice, Deep Purple. Now, you better get off your [deleted] & back working on the hedges before the owner gets home!
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by SoCal_Pony » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:45 pm
I have dealt with countless investment banking firms in NYC.
If your Sr Management did not get their degree from Rice / UT / A&M or SMU, it will not be mentioned in the bios. That is not an opinion...that is a fact..
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by mustang_of_smu » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:30 pm
Deep Purple wrote:SoCal_Pony wrote:Trash our football team all day long, but there are only 4 universities in Texas worth attending....Rice UT A&M and SMU....
Self-flattery to the point of self-deception does not make your case for you. It really discredits it. According to all the rankings, SMU is not in the same class as Rice or UT. SMU is in the same class as A&M, TCU, and Baylor. Facts is facts.
Facts hugh. Haven't been reading much on Princeton review have you. The truth is UT, A&M, SMU, Baylor and Rice are all on par but there is no TCU. Of course, right now, Rice is a cut above UT and they are both a cut above the others mentioned, but there is no TCU to be mentioned. Best college buy was listed one year for TCU, but they never get any academic awards. You have tried to build an SMU in FW, but you haven't gotten any programs to get ranked anywhere near ours.
Sorry,
Facts are facts.
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by Duke Blue Blood » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:17 pm
So sad when a decent college rivalry has to stoop to who makes more money. This is clearly due the pathetic performance of our team.
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by PK » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:23 pm
Hey Duke...where have you been??? Good to see you.
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by Hoss » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:28 pm
Deep Purple wrote: .... TCU's campus says "university in the Southwest" ....
If that was actually true, then there might be some justification for the elitist attitude of some of the east coast academics who seem to think all good schools are in New England. Thankfully, that statement is comical, not accurate. Deep Purple wrote: .... SMU is the one with the tinker-toy stands and the small-time capacity that they never fill....
So you're saying you actually prefer Amon Carter Landfill? Puh-leeze. Deep Purple wrote: .... Yet here I sit in my spacious hillside home in southwest Fort Worth. I look out past my swimming pool to the golf course in the valley below, then miles of rising ranchland beyond, with a brilliant sunset silhouetting a windmill on the opposite hill. Cactus and wildflowers are scattered across the slope. Soon I will see deer and wild turkeys passing by on the way to their nightly feed. When the sun slips below the opposite hill, the fireflies will begin rising in waves across my little acre, and I'll hear an occasional coyote howl as the moon rises....
(sigh) I can hardly stand all this ugliness....
Hold on. Let me re-fill my corn squeezin's jug before you finish that lovely mental picture. I live in freakin' Oklahoma and that's even better than Fort Worth. Frogville has some redeeming features, I'm sure, but I have yet to discover any of them.
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by Woblefrog » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:07 am
Some of these posts on this "smack" thread are really pathetic. We know SMU is a good school, I don't think that you would find very many people with any academic knowledge at all who would argue with you. We think TCU is a good school too. We like Ft. Worth and many of us, myself included, don't care squat for Dallas. If you like traffic and pretentious people in BMW's then Dallas ought to be your cup of tea. For the SMU fan that says he makes more in dividends than the TCU guy does in salary, who cares? If you think the only thing important in life is your dividend checks then you are far more pathetic than the rest. I doubt seriously that any one on here would have the slightest inkling about what any of the others make, besides that, if you gotta talk about how much money you have, you don't have any!
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by SouthernMustang » Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:20 am
SMU and TCU are much more alike academically than different. I know SMU tries to dispel that we are the Vanderbilt of Texas, but honestly -- the things we have in common with Vandy are social not academic. Both of our students are 1) Southern, 2) Rich, 3) Preppy, and 4) Conservative, and 5) Greek.
SMU and TCU are within 26 spots or so of each other on USNews (SMU #71, TCU #97) and the SAT averages are like 50 points different. Acceptance rates like 5 or 8% different. SMU's capitalized on the Southeastern market, TCU capitalizes on the Mid-West. That's why our Tailgate rocks (SEC style baby) and theirs sucks (heard of any good Big XII tailgate schools?)  Oh yah, Vandy is #18 -- one below Rice -- 53 spots higher.
I'll disagree on the Texas and Rice being together above the rest. Texas is ranked outside of the Top 50 ... so you have Texas (#53), A&M (#60), SMU (#71), Baylor (#78 ), and TCU (#97). Rice is in its own league (#17).
SMU MBA and TCU MBA are each ranked higher than each other by some sort of ranking system ... b/c there are about 40,000 different systems and categories. Both are good, and both have good reputations.
I know some people like to think that we went to Harvard by going to SMU, but we didn't. Our parents just wanted other people to think that so they sent us to a school that cost nearly as much. 
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by ThadFilms » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:55 pm
When I was a kid, I didn't like Fort Worth... and I had no good reason for it... as I've gotten older, I have come to appreciate it's Texas charm, it's pretty down town, and dear lord those great museums...
I think an education is what you make of it, so though I was in film I went out of my way way to take classes from the internationally recognized scholars... folks like Jeremy Adams, David Friedel, Charlie Curran, etc. (Heck, I even took a class from my father...)
While every university has their scholars, it was important to me to find them... I'm sure TCU has their share....
But I went to SMU... I like the campus. It's in a pretty area...
I don't have any animosity towards TCU... not the fans, the alumni, etc. I just don't like their football team... and what kind of a mascot is a Horned Frog? Well, at least it's unique...
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by The Stampede » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:09 pm
SouthernMustang,
TCU's MBA program is ranked higher than SMU in ONE POLL and that was by recruiters - not academic standards. The latest rankings have the PMBA program at #12 (USNews, only Texas school in top 20) and #10 (in Forbes - highest in Texas and the South). SMU's EMBA program is ranked in the top 15 by USNews and the Full-Time program (smallest by far of the three) is ranked #31 after rebounding with higher placement rates this past year.
The programs are not comparable.
"Then in the Arctic half-light of the canyon, all existence fades to a being with my soul and memories and the sounds of the Big Blackfoot River and a four-count rhythm and the hope that a fish will rise."
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by SouthernMustang » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:24 pm
The Stampede wrote:SouthernMustang,
TCU's MBA program is ranked higher than SMU in ONE POLL and that was by recruiters - not academic standards. The latest rankings have the PMBA program at #12 (USNews, only Texas school in top 20) and #10 (in Forbes - highest in Texas and the South). SMU's EMBA program is ranked in the top 15 by USNews and the Full-Time program (smallest by far of the three) is ranked #31 after rebounding with higher placement rates this past year.
The programs are not comparable.
I stand corrected. That's great to hear about SMU's MBA programs.
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by The Stampede » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:32 pm
I am slightly biased - SMU 2002 undergrad and currently president of the PMBA program (600 people and the bread and butter of Cox).
"Then in the Arctic half-light of the canyon, all existence fades to a being with my soul and memories and the sounds of the Big Blackfoot River and a four-count rhythm and the hope that a fish will rise."
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by Bocephus » Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:43 pm
Looks like the sips slipped ahead of us in the rankings this year. When I was in school we were ranked ahead of tu a couple of years and you should have seen the letters to the editor and articles written about how the rankings didn't matter. The past few years we have been tied. I could really give a flying f, I went to the right school for me. TCU is a good school for ranch management. Other than that, I don't know why you would go down there. Ft. Worth is more laid back than Dallas with more courteous drivers. Also a much better city government and sense of itself. If you gave me the choice to live in Ft. Worth or Dallas I would choose Ft. Worth every time. SMU's campus is prettier than TCUs.
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