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Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:02 pm
by SMU Section F
Pony_Law wrote:The reason they are doing this is to stop people from making a one time donation to jump the line. For instance if you want to sit low section 212 and have 4 seats your seat donation requirement is 4k, Mu stand club leaves switch though at 5k+. So if you donate 5k you move up a level in order in mustang club tiers for only a 1k difference in donation (if you are willing to pay 4k you probably have another 1k in discretionary spending). They want to stop the person who only wants to buy 4k seats but is willing to pay a onetime increase to make sure he gets them because now that person has to donate 5k each year.
Considering how many people are worried about the rich donor swooping in and taking their seats, this system discourages that exact type of behavior.
I understand that. I guess I'm not one of the people worried about rich donors swooping in and taking my seats. I'll be bummed if SMU basketball becomes too expensive for me, but that's life. It's the multiple layers of gambling required to figure out if I can get my seats (or similar) that bothers me.
That policy does have some advantages, but to me it's just another sign that SMU has no idea how to fairly price/allocate the commodity that SMU basketball has become and wants to push that burden on the fans. (Despite all the "research" and "comparables" they cite in the re-seating pamphlets.)
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:18 pm
by mrydel
FWIW, which I know is little, Arkansas is having a good season and are very impressive so far other than laying an egg in Houston. They are having the same argument over reseating. They have 18,000 seats and the students are saying they deserve the best seats at the lowest cost. I love the minds of the college kids who have yet to experience the outside world.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:49 pm
by oilpony
mrydel wrote:FWIW, which I know is little, Arkansas is having a good season and are very impressive so far other than laying an egg in Houston. They are having the same argument over reseating. They have 18,000 seats and the students are saying they deserve the best seats at the lowest cost. I love the minds of the college kids who have yet to experience the outside world.
That’s why should not be allowed to vote lol
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:50 pm
by ponyboy
That's the mindset of half the electorate.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:55 pm
by SMU Section F
mrydel wrote:FWIW, which I know is little, Arkansas is having a good season and are very impressive so far other than laying an egg in Houston. They are having the same argument over reseating. They have 18,000 seats and the students are saying they deserve the best seats at the lowest cost. I love the minds of the college kids who have yet to experience the outside world.
Well, in all fairness, I agree that current students should have (
deserve is a bit strong) the best seats at the lowest cost. Does that make me a Communist or something?
Do we want to move the MOB to the rafters? And someone should tell Duke about this...
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:59 pm
by mrydel
Well when you have 30,000 students and 18,000 seats it gets difficult. The MOB has very limited seating and is a well deserved student section.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:03 pm
by SMU Section F
mrydel wrote:Well when you have 30,000 students and 18,000 seats it gets difficult. The MOB has very limited seating and is a well deserved student section.
Yeah, I guess I don't really know what the Arkansas students are clamoring for. Students should get always first shot at a good number of cheap (or ideally free) first level seats; which is basically the way it is done everywhere. If they're expecting to take all 18k seats for cheap, that is pretty stupid.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:12 pm
by mrydel
I would bet that there are plenty of good deserved seats for the students. But they are almost demanding them all. It is no big deal. Just nice to hear that we are not the only ones with reseating issues.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:23 pm
by SMU Section F
mrydel wrote:I would bet that there are plenty of good deserved seats for the students. But they are almost demanding them all. It is no big deal. Just nice to hear that we are not the only ones with reseating issues.
Definitely not. It's a mess even at established programs like Duke (or the other big boys), but they have a much better read on what the product is worth and more confidence that the value will hold. (My FIL recently gave up his Duke tickets out of frustration w/ the constant donation requirements.)
Upstarts like us (or probably Arkansas right now) are infinitely more difficult to value/project and simultaneously staffed by less qualified people. Not a great combo for fan satisfaction.
I hope the whole process turns out for SMU. At my house it's a win/win... either I get to keep my tickets or I'll have more money in my account. Either way I'll see the same number of games. (Maybe I'm secretly hoping SMU forces my hand so I don't have to be "responsible".)
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:02 pm
by SoCal_Pony
Students bring an unmatched energy to the game.
I think it would be foolish to ever move them from the floor / close to the action.
Same goes for the bands.
That’s what helps make college athletics unique.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:58 am
by Pony ^
If they ever moved the students from the floor, the administration is even bigger idiots than I thought
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:13 am
by One Trick Pony
The two floor seats I leased went from $4600 to $12000 - the front row back up seats went from 0 donation requirement in 202 to $500 per seat. I was priced out of the floor - but I choose not to pay $1,500 for two seats in 202 even if I was guaranteed the same seats.
If I pop up solo for say five home games $1,000 will buy me seats anywhere I want to sit. But more than likely I eliminate the 80-mile drive $10 parking fee and $40 worth of $10 cans of beer.
Ra ra
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:34 pm
by used to be 2
Heard they have standing room only for the first session of explaining how they screwed up.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:03 pm
by One Trick Pony
used to be 2 wrote:Heard they have standing room only for the first session of explaining how they screwed up.
You'd think we won the damn national championship.
Re: Why is no one talking about the re-seating at Moody?
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:19 pm
by Pony_Law
Just wanted to bump this thread as they are having a public info session regarding the re-seating tomorrow. They say it's public but ask you to RSVP.