westexSMU wrote:Blog you made some good points and as you know I agree with you on not hiring Larry Coker.....If this hire is going poorly and Orsini is down to Coker and Fran, then by all means he better take Fran....Coker would be a complete disaster.
Why? 60-15 with a national title, and we're too good for the guy?
Not only that, but he was the architect of the sensational Miami defense?
All college teams should have such problems.
[quote="Hoss"][quote="westexSMU"]Blog you made some good points and as you know I agree with you on not hiring Larry Coker.....If this hire is going poorly and Orsini is down to Coker and Fran, then by all means he better take Fran....Coker would be a complete disaster.[/quote]Why? 60-15 with a national title, and we're too good for the guy?
Not only that, but he was the architect of the sensational Miami defense?
All college teams should have such problems.[/quote]...........As I have said before, Coker took over as Head Coach at Miami when their program was considered the best football program and the most talented team in the country. Sure he did very well at first, as most coaches would have taking over a program like that. However, as Miami fans will tell you, when Coker was FIRED last year, Miami's program had declined so much that they are just average at best now. This year's Miami team went 5-7 having their first loosing season in almost 30 years....Sure if you look at the surface, any agent can put a positive spin on Coker's record. But look at where he took Miami over the course of HIS LEADERSHIP and Miami fans will tell you hiring him was a disaster..... I didn't say he couldn't coach, but we are looking for a Head Coach. Get past the spin and you will see to take Miami's program down like that is not someone who we should want as Head Coach to rebuild our program.
westexSMU wrote:Blog you made some good points and as you know I agree with you on not hiring Larry Coker.....If this hire is going poorly and Orsini is down to Coker and Fran, then by all means he better take Fran....Coker would be a complete disaster.
Why? 60-15 with a national title, and we're too good for the guy? Not only that, but he was the architect of the sensational Miami defense? All college teams should have such problems.
...........As I have said before, Coker took over as Head Coach at Miami when their program was considered the best football program and the most talented team in the country. Sure he did very well at first, as most coaches would have taking over a program like that. However, as Miami fans will tell you, when Coker was FIRED last year, Miami's program had declined so much that they are just average at best now. This year's Miami team went 5-7 having their first loosing season in almost 30 years....Sure if you look at the surface, any agent can put a positive spin on Coker's record. But look at where he took Miami over the course of HIS LEADERSHIP and Miami fans will tell you hiring him was a disaster..... I didn't say he couldn't coach, but we are looking for a Head Coach. Get past the spin and you will see to take Miami's program down like that is not someone who we should want as Head Coach to rebuild our program.
He won a National Championship! Average? So far, we have not found anyone that can even take us to average. I can't beleive we are trashing guy with a national championship who has an interest in SMU.
SMUer wrote:12-0, 12-1, 11-2, 9-3, 9-3, 7-6 -Wow, what a sucky LOSER vs 11-0, 9-1-1, 8-4, 8-4, 10-3, 1-5 -Wow, this guy must be the left hand of God
If you can't see an obvious downtrend with Coker's record, there is no hope for you. You also don't need to ignore that Bowden's first two years he was under NCAA probation and he still went undefeated in his first year.
perunapower wrote:If you can't see an obvious downtrend with Coker's record, there is no hope for you. You also don't need to ignore that Bowden's first two years he was under NCAA probation and he still went undefeated in his first year.
Coker/Davis built their Miami teams with (much more substantial) NCAA penalties also. I really haven't ignored it. As far as trends go...I see two coaches that were never able to equal the success of their first seasons, were able to manage a souring program with respectful records for three years before struggling and getting fired. Both coaches have declining records and if you are calling that 10-3 SO much different than the 9-3 that Coker coached in his 5th year then you're WAY WAY too picky. BTW, that 1-5 beginning is the only season on there that looks like an SMU season...I love Bowden (he's my #1 wish-coach) but to make him seem night and day with Coker seems ridiculous.
