UCLA Rivals : Klemm

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:59 am

IMHO, the entire reason for keeping JJ after this mess was for continuity and to keep our 2012 recruiting class and the work that we have already done for 2013 (e.g., Printz). Without Klemm, I honestly wonder how many of these 2012 guys would stick around. Marks? Lewis? Myers? Palacio? Heck, most of the Cali guys plus OL recruits are all Klemm, not JJ.

I know Marks said he'd follow JJ to ASU or anywhere else. But would he follow JJ without Klemm?? That is the real question.

If it is money - pay the man. If it is title, give it to him. But if he wants to go back to west coast, we are screwed.

ericdickerson4life · Post by **ericdickerson4life** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:04 am

I thought he was our next head coach?

We can never have another coach that is as good as recruiting as him. Looks like 25 more years in the wilderness for us. Whoa is me, and it's Friday.

squire · Post by **squire** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:21 am

Mitch McConnell wrote:Coaches come and go...

Looks like Klemm is gone. Unfortunately so will most of this recruiting class. Huge setback.
Looks to me like the only way A.K stays is as HC. Don't think SMU is ready for that.
Not sure where that will leave JJ. Either out, or starting a massive rebuild here, with many bridges burned.

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:23 am

Mitch McConnell wrote:Well, if we believe that Larry Porter and Turner Gill are considered very good recruiters and Gill is from this area, would they possible replacements should Klemm leave?

Gill as a good recruiter is just not true.

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:26 am

ericdickerson4life wrote:I thought he was our next head coach?

We can never have another coach that is as good as recruiting as him. Looks like 25 more years in the wilderness for us. Whoa is me, and it's Friday.

i know you're joking, but seriously, why do people think that Adrian Klemm is our savior? everyone's trying to run JJ out of town for talking to another school about a BETTER job. Klemm is showing where he wants to be, yet we're trying to keep him here.

squire · Post by **squire** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:35 am

Dutch wrote:
ericdickerson4life wrote:I thought he was our next head coach?

We can never have another coach that is as good as recruiting as him. Looks like 25 more years in the wilderness for us. Whoa is me, and it's Friday.

i know you're joking, but seriously, why do people think that Adrian Klemm is our savior? everyone's trying to run JJ out of town for talking to another school about a BETTER job. Klemm is showing where he wants to be, yet we're trying to keep him here.

At this point, Klemm may be more important to this program than JJ is.
JJ is a burned out coach who doesn't want to be here, running a 3 and out offense. Klemm is a raw up and comer with a lot of energy and incredible recruiting ability.
Klemm also holds less blame for this whole disaster. At least publicly.

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:40 am

squire wrote:At this point, Klemm may be more important to this program than JJ is.
JJ is a burned out coach who doesn't want to be here, running a 3 and out offense. Klemm is a raw up and comer with a lot of energy and incredible recruiting ability.
Klemm also holds less blame for this whole disaster. At least publicly.

you say JJ doesn't wnat to be here, but look at what klemm is doing, retweeting all the ASU & UCLA love? think he does? listen, put yourself in either of their shoes. neither went to school here, so this is purely a job to them. can you objectively say that as a coach, i don't care WHAT type of coach (OL, DC, OC or HC) that you would rather be at SMU than UCLA or ASU? that's the big time my friend.

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:43 am

I have always thought that Klemm has been "interviewing" for a west coach gig by all the west coast recruiting he has been doing. I want him to stay and he is a super recruiter, but if he had true love for SMU he would have been concentrating on Dallas area first and other areas later. Embrace Klemm while he is here but I doubt we keep him for long.

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:48 am

he's from Inglewood. he grew up watching Pac10 football. he's a west coast dude. he's gonna pull a CJWilson and get back to cali.

Mitch McConnell · Post by **Mitch McConnell** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:48 am

Dutch wrote:
Mitch McConnell wrote:Well, if we believe that Larry Porter and Turner Gill are considered very good recruiters and Gill is from this area, would they possible replacements should Klemm leave?

Gill as a good recruiter is just not true.

Can you help me understand that..

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:49 am

Jj didn't want him to recruit Texas, jj asked him to use his west coast connections to get athletes in quick, and he did.

He wants to move up and have opportunities, jj is not going to give him those at smu.

Dutch I'm sorry that you don't think the guy is hc material, I don't think he is ready yet either; but in the current situation he is the best short term answer until someone else comes up with something, I am waitin for other ideas.

Mitch McConnell · Post by **Mitch McConnell** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:52 am

I am issuing the Panic alert

Comet · Post by **Comet** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:56 am

Quite frankly, I'm tired of worrying about coaches. If Klemm and Jj leave next year, I have faith that the CoC and Orsini can bring in a coach to take us to the next level. Hopefully with Texas ties this time around.

ojaipony · Post by **ojaipony** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:57 am

I don't get the importance of recruiting Texas. You go where the talent is and California has way more than Texas. Have you ever been to these high school football games out here? I'm not saying there's no elite talent in Texas but if we want to be a national school we need to not limit ourselves to Texas. With finite resources, you have to set priorities. And Texas is not a #1 priority - finding talent wherever it happens to be (and SoCal has it in spades) is the #1 priority. If you are saying by recruiting Texas it will help increase attendance as folks would want to come see the "local" guy, I'm not sure ... maybe if they are from DFW but folks aren't going to drive from Houston just to see a former star high school football player (friends and family might but that's about it IMHO). By focusing so much on Texas we are limiting ourselves. I, for one, think they are recruiting perfectly.

If Klemm goes, it will be terrible and we should do whatever we can to keep him. But, at the end of the day we're all big boys and girls and know he needs to do what's best for him. Hopefully he sees SMU as a long term fit for him where he can really grow and make something his own. I, for one, think his tweets are just him sharing (especially for his recruits) the positive things people are saying about him - like sharing an award or trophy with people you like. I wouldn't read much more into it than that. But, what do I know.

NickSMU17 · Post by **NickSMU17** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:01 pm

CoxMustangFan wrote:
NickSMU17 wrote:Jj didn't want him to recruit Texas, jj asked him to use his west coast connections to get athletes in quick, and he did.

He wants to move up and have opportunities, jj is not going to give him those at smu.

Dutch I'm sorry that you don't think the guy is hc material, I don't think he is ready yet either; but in the current situation he is the best short term answer until someone else comes up with something, I am waitin for other ideas.

Nick, I'm a BIG Klemm fan too, but clinging to Klemm at this point is like saying you don't want to break up with your girlfriend because you would have to move all of your stuff out of her place. If he wants to stay, SO and team need to work something out for him; if he's dreaming of the West Coast, then thank him and wish him well. If it's the later, flush the current team and start fresh. There will be many options.

all I am doing is trying to mitigate risk and damages, I would love to hear your short term solution knowin that jj is gone in 12 months and we are sitting with a lame duck coach.

Please someone give me an alternative I can argue for...I too am tired about talking about AK but it's the safest way to ride the bumpy road.