originaloverthehilltop1 wrote:since we didn't make those concessions or changes for bennett or any of his predicessors, i think he does deserve at least some credit for that. the trouble i have with all the BIG NAME coaches including to some extent, jj, is that they think money should never be an object to providing whatever they want (IPF--or anything else) to build THEIR programs. If state U. has it, they have to have it or they have another "commitment" excuse for not winning. despite this years disappointments, i think we should give jj another year, and we should get out of a couple of those nonconf juggernaut games. even jj says we are not ready for that.
You want another season of mediocre on-field play and mediocre recruiting?
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
I think he was like #20 when we first hired him. Salaries have really gone up the last several years. I bet we are part of what started that. That and Alabama getting Saban 40 mil for 10 years or whatever it was.
originaloverthehilltop1 wrote: despite this years disappointments, i think we should give jj another year, and we should get out of a couple of those nonconf juggernaut games. even jj says we are not ready for that.
IMO it is jj's fault that we can not compete with some of our old conference mates. He has had plenty of time to recruit the talent we needed to be competitive nationally or at least win our cupcake conference and he has refused to do so.
He also is a master of passing the blame. No IPF, academics too difficult, lights not in the right position, players just didn't play like they do in practice etc. etc. Does anybody else find it odd that all of the failures are never his fault. I would probably faint if he ever said something like- our gameplan didn't work like we thought it would or the other team surprised us with formations and plays that I didn't anticipate. etc.
He is the 'captain' of the mustang ship. He shouldn't be passing the buck like he does.
This ship has hit the iceburg and it's time for a new captain to come to the rescue.
1 young, agressive assistant recruiting 2,000 miles from Texas almost made SMU competitive in recruiting by himself-look at Urban Meyer and Nick Saban statements that if you are not recruiting every day then you are an anchor to the program. Go to the Coaches page at UT, A&M, Tech, Okie St and OU and look at the profile of the assistant coaches. Look at Larry Brown and his assistants. June Jones is a dinosauer who has no one to blame but himself. He apparently did not know what he was getting into recruiting in the state of Texas-and hasn't done what is necessary to adjust to his deficiencies. If he had made those adjustments and still failed to attract local recruits then maybe he might have a point. He didn't djust and doesn't have a legitimate argument-only an excuse for his own failure
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
Stallion wrote:1 young, agressive assistant recruiting 2,000 miles from Texas almost made SMU competitive in recruiting by himself-look at Urban Meyer and Nick Saban statements that if you are not recruiting every day then you are an anchor to the program. Go to the Coaches page at UT, A&M, Tech, Okie St and OU and look at the profile of the assistant coaches. Look at Larry Brown and his assistants. June Jones is a dinosauer who has no one to blame but himself. He apparently did not know what he was getting into recruiting in the state of Texas-and hasn't done what is necessary to adjust to his deficiencies. If he had made those adjustments and still failed to attract local recruits then maybe he might have a point. He didn't djust and doesn't have a legitimate argument-only an excuse for his own failure
From 900 miles away, I feel a lack of engagement by JJ. His interviews come off without enthusiasm. I have always wanted him to recruit fans and students, who need motivation and pressure to attend and support the team in force. If you have been watching Coach Franklin at Vanderbilt, he has fired up his team, students and the fans in Nashville with a competitive Commodore team in a very difficult conference.
We need a coach committed to his players, schools and fan base with high energy and full of enthusiasm to SMU Football on the national stage. We need leadership.
Stallion wrote:1 young, agressive assistant recruiting 2,000 miles from Texas almost made SMU competitive in recruiting by himself-look at Urban Meyer and Nick Saban statements that if you are not recruiting every day then you are an anchor to the program. Go to the Coaches page at UT, A&M, Tech, Okie St and OU and look at the profile of the assistant coaches. Look at Larry Brown and his assistants. June Jones is a dinosauer who has no one to blame but himself. He apparently did not know what he was getting into recruiting in the state of Texas-and hasn't done what is necessary to adjust to his deficiencies. If he had made those adjustments and still failed to attract local recruits then maybe he might have a point. He didn't djust and doesn't have a legitimate argument-only an excuse for his own failure
How can this post not be eye opening to the Jones apologists?
Look what Klemm alone did. Imagine a whole staff of Klemms.
Wait, you don't. Basketball has that staff and has us on the path.
Stallion wrote:1 young, agressive assistant recruiting 2,000 miles from Texas almost made SMU competitive in recruiting by himself-look at Urban Meyer and Nick Saban statements that if you are not recruiting every day then you are an anchor to the program. Go to the Coaches page at UT, A&M, Tech, Okie St and OU and look at the profile of the assistant coaches. Look at Larry Brown and his assistants. June Jones is a dinosauer who has no one to blame but himself. He apparently did not know what he was getting into recruiting in the state of Texas-and hasn't done what is necessary to adjust to his deficiencies. If he had made those adjustments and still failed to attract local recruits then maybe he might have a point. He didn't djust and doesn't have a legitimate argument-only an excuse for his own failure
Very well said and so true-JJ's reign needs to end after this season for the good of all concerned.
Stallion wrote:1 young, agressive assistant recruiting 2,000 miles from Texas almost made SMU competitive in recruiting by himself-look at Urban Meyer and Nick Saban statements that if you are not recruiting every day then you are an anchor to the program. Go to the Coaches page at UT, A&M, Tech, Okie St and OU and look at the profile of the assistant coaches. Look at Larry Brown and his assistants. June Jones is a dinosauer who has no one to blame but himself. He apparently did not know what he was getting into recruiting in the state of Texas-and hasn't done what is necessary to adjust to his deficiencies. If he had made those adjustments and still failed to attract local recruits then maybe he might have a point. He didn't djust and doesn't have a legitimate argument-only an excuse for his own failure
Like I've said before, my preference would be for the circle of champions to assign a staff to June Jones. I know he can still coach and his name still means something, he just doesn't know how to recruit and is to stubborn to change. There has to be a way to impose a staff on him otherwise let him go.
xc- agree about imposing a new staff on him. First, I wonder what his contract might say about his control of his other coaches. Next, I think it might be very difficult to hire coaches that were not selected by the HC. I can see a lot of problems with that process. IMO it is best for him to leave and we can start with a new coach and staff that wants to be here, will embrace our traditions and is ready to go recruit like crazy.
Stallion wrote:I think every Coach we have had since DP would have gone to multiple bowls and could have easily gone 7-5 playing in CUSA and with the present academic Model. No doubt in my mind. Look at our CUSA schedule. We shouldn't be outrecruited by a single team in our Division except perhaps at times Houston. Changing the academic model saved the program and since the actual evidence is overwhelming that those changes were made prior to and in order induce June Jones to take the job-I don't give him credit for that. SMU's administration and leaders get credit for that
Stallion wrote:I think every Coach we have had since DP would have gone to multiple bowls and could have easily gone 7-5 playing in CUSA and with the present academic Model. No doubt in my mind. Look at our CUSA schedule. We shouldn't be outrecruited by a single team in our Division except perhaps at times Houston. Changing the academic model saved the program and since the actual evidence is overwhelming that those changes were made prior to and in order induce June Jones to take the job-I don't give him credit for that. SMU's administration and leaders get credit for that
Agree 100%.
btw, Craig James, whose loyalty to SMU seems to be questioned by many on this board, said the very same thing while doing the SMU-UTEP game from Ford a few years ago, but he did not limit it just to C-USA, but to the entire non-BCS world.
