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Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:00 pm
by feelthehorsepower
Come and Take It wrote:CoxMustangFan wrote:Come and Take It wrote:
On offense Gilbert, Johnson, and Gottschalk are gone. Acker, Joyner, Pope, and Scott on defense. That's 7 of 22 starters. That's quite a bit.
Fair point, but let's be honest, only a few of those guys are impact players. Plus, and few rarely focus on this, you get 70 kids back with one more year of conditioning and experience. I mean Joyner was a 5.2 2* with offers from SMU and Sam Houston. Pope was a 5.4 2* kid with garbage offers. The guys you listed above were important guys this year, be let's not fear the sky is falling simply because those seven guys are graduating (though, losing GG stings). For me (and I think for just about everyone) it's that we're not seeing sweeping improvement in recruiting. It's not that we can't plug six of the seven holes from above.
Garrett is a given, but consider this: your leading pass catcher; your top 2 leading tacklers (one of which is now playing RB) and 3 of the top 4; starter on the OL; your best DB. All of them are gone.
In my honest opinion, those are all impact players. When you say "only a few of those guys are impact players," are you judging on a career or this year? If by year, then the only one you could feasibly say isn't is Gottschalk. Are all of their replacements equally as good? No. Is that the problem? Yes. Like Stallion says above, "we are losing better talent than we are developing."
Plugging those holes isn't the problem. Plugging them with suitable replacements is.
EDIT: Holman is gone as well. 2nd leading receiver in terms of yards. Leading receiver in yards per catch.
Yes, we are losing some seniors...but their replacements have an entire off season to practice and grow. Hopefully we will be ready in 2014.
This is also the first year for Hal Mumme's offense too...
Although I am worried about our running game...we need to be able to put at least 150-200 yards on the ground every game folks and not from our quarterback! There are some drives where we call 10 pass plays and only 1 rush play. I prefer a balanced approach in which we go 60/40 for pass/rush. Prescott may have a coming out year in 2014...hopefully better than Zach
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:12 pm
by Harry0569
FTHP - you realize JJ/Mumme's offense does not utilize a balanced attack...
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:13 pm
by feelthehorsepower
Harry0569 wrote:FTHP - you realize JJ/Mumme's offense does not utilize a balanced attack...
I know, they call 10 pass plays for every rush play. I said I want a balanced attack, not that we have a balanced attack...
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:54 pm
by Stallion
the correct answer is we are losing way more Senior talent than we are developing as replacements-3rd straight year
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:08 pm
by feelthehorsepower
Stallion wrote:the correct answer is we are losing way more Senior talent than we are developing as replacements-3rd straight year
THIS
Thanks
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:19 pm
by East Coast Mustang
Harry0569 wrote:FTHP - you realize JJ/Mumme's offense does not utilize a balanced attack...
He doesn't realize anything. I imagine he wears velcro shoes
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:42 pm
by MV pony
LOL, ECM. Good one.
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:33 pm
by PoconoPony
Stallion wrote:for the last 3 years including this year we are losing better talent than we are developing. I really think we are stair-stepping down. The young players we thought would contribute especially on defense this year didn't show
I agree completely. In addition, our 2014 class will probably be the lowest rated/talented in the JJ era and insure continued stair-stepping down.
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:44 pm
by redpony
jsut another example that jj (and his attitude ) is out of here.
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:23 pm
by CoxMustangFan
I think just about everyone on this board knows more about football recruiting than me. I was just trying to point out that only a small handful of important players are graduating (GG being the biggest). Just not sure we have an answer at QB (or RB).
I guess I'm just dumb enough to try and find some hope in all of this. My bad.
Re: Someone Talk Me Off The Ledge!
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:52 am
by feelthehorsepower
East Coast Mustang wrote:Harry0569 wrote:FTHP - you realize JJ/Mumme's offense does not utilize a balanced attack...
He doesn't realize anything. I imagine he wears velcro shoes
