UCLA Rivals : Klemm

[Dutch]

Well, if we believe that Larry Porter and Turner Gill are considered very good recruiters and Gill is from this area, would they possible replacements should Klemm leave?

Gill as a good recruiter is just not true.

Can you help me understand that..

he got a rep for recruiting while at NEBRASKA, in the late 90s. YOU could have been a great recruiter to nebraska then.

back when we went through a coaching search last time, i talked to some nebraska folks (huskerpony and 2ndLong can both vouch that i have very good connections there). got the info from the source. he got a rep for it. but guess what. Tom Osborne, who spoke so 'highly' of Gill, didn't even give him an interview when they were looking for coaches. not even a "Dennis Green" interview.

how did he do at KU?

[ponyinNC]

I don't get the importance of recruiting Texas. You go where the talent is and California has way more than Texas. Have you ever been to these high school football games out here? I'm not saying there's no elite talent in Texas but if we want to be a national school we need to not limit ourselves to Texas. With finite resources, you have to set priorities. And Texas is not a #1 priority - finding talent wherever it happens to be (and SoCal has it in spades) is the #1 priority. If you are saying by recruiting Texas it will help increase attendance as folks would want to come see the "local" guy, I'm not sure ... maybe if they are from DFW but folks aren't going to drive from Houston just to see a former star high school football player (friends and family might but that's about it IMHO). By focusing so much on Texas we are limiting ourselves. I, for one, think they are recruiting perfectly.

If Klemm goes, it will be terrible and we should do whatever we can to keep him. But, at the end of the day we're all big boys and girls and know he needs to do what's best for him. Hopefully he sees SMU as a long term fit for him where he can really grow and make something his own. I, for one, think his tweets are just him sharing (especially for his recruits) the positive things people are saying about him - like sharing an award or trophy with people you like. I wouldn't read much more into it than that. But, what do I know.

You recruit Texas because that is where your school is located. Coaches do come and go but SMU will ALWAYS be in Texas. We all see know that if Klemm leaves, most of our Cali connections are shot. You recruit Texas, just like UT, TAMU, TT, Baylor, TCU and UH do, because that is where your long-term stability lies. How many out of state guys does Texas or TCU take??

[Dutch]

umm, also b/c with california and florida, it's the most talent rich state for football. period.

[NickSMU17]

Cox...

Jj is here for 12 months unless he resigns, that's the scenario. Someone give me a better short term option so we don't lose 2-3 recruiting classes and whatever coach we hire next isn't left with junk

[ebrooks11]

I say we just self impose the Death Penalty again. Its so much easier that way.

[SMU_Alumni11]

Ultimately, S.O. needs to pick apart the JJ team and get the ones that are valuable and shove the others with JJ in a carepackage to retirement. Im hoping Klemm stays and then we can find a great recruiter for Texas schools, then hopefully get a recruiter for Florida... Right now like Cox said, we dont have good options in front of us. The fact JJ will be coaching without any consequence sucks... It would be nice to have a line of coaches out the door to take his spot, but he knew this and knew that SMU is desperate enough to take him back.

[smubrooks]

Quite frankly, I'm tired of worrying about coaches. If Klemm and Jj leave next year, I have faith that the CoC and Orsini can bring in a coach to take us to the next level. Hopefully with Texas ties this time around.

Amen!

[ojaipony]

I don't get the importance of recruiting Texas. You go where the talent is and California has way more than Texas. Have you ever been to these high school football games out here? I'm not saying there's no elite talent in Texas but if we want to be a national school we need to not limit ourselves to Texas. With finite resources, you have to set priorities. And Texas is not a #1 priority - finding talent wherever it happens to be (and SoCal has it in spades) is the #1 priority. If you are saying by recruiting Texas it will help increase attendance as folks would want to come see the "local" guy, I'm not sure ... maybe if they are from DFW but folks aren't going to drive from Houston just to see a former star high school football player (friends and family might but that's about it IMHO). By focusing so much on Texas we are limiting ourselves. I, for one, think they are recruiting perfectly.

If Klemm goes, it will be terrible and we should do whatever we can to keep him. But, at the end of the day we're all big boys and girls and know he needs to do what's best for him. Hopefully he sees SMU as a long term fit for him where he can really grow and make something his own. I, for one, think his tweets are just him sharing (especially for his recruits) the positive things people are saying about him - like sharing an award or trophy with people you like. I wouldn't read much more into it than that. But, what do I know.

You recruit Texas because that is where your school is located. Coaches do come and go but SMU will ALWAYS be in Texas. We all see know that if Klemm leaves, most of our Cali connections are shot. You recruit Texas, just like UT, TAMU, TT, Baylor, TCU and UH do, because that is where your long-term stability lies. How many out of state guys does Texas or TCU take??

Let's just agree to disagree. SMU will never have the national reputation that we all want by limiting ourselves to JUST Texas (re-read my post, I'm not saying ignore it, I'm saying don't focus on it exclusively and with limited resources we have to make priorities ... if the best QB we can get happens to be in, oh I don't know, GEORGIA, that's where we go. If the best WR we can get happens to be in Cali, that's where we go. If the best RB we can get is in TX, then fine go there. That's how the Stanfords, USCs, LSU's, Alabama's do it. I don't think TAMU, UT, etc is the model. Look bigger and broader than that. And TCU gets a lot of recruits from out of state.

[PonyTales]

The wide concern from those who track this is that we do a subpar job making inroads in this state. I became convinced that this staff was indeed blowing it in Texas after the May evaluation period.

So we have heard. Repeatedly.

So here's the issue. Your best recruiter is making hay in Southern California. It looks like he's trying to revamp the efforts in Texas, although there is a long way to go following that reported come-to-jesus meeting with the other coaches. Southern California -- and that's a great state to recruit don't misunderstand -- is not where a major focus should be IMO.

Texas is not the only place with talented players. In fact, many would argue that there are better players (blasphemy, I know) in California, Florida and a few other places. Which is true is a matter of opinion. What isn't a matter of opinion is the fact that Coach Klemm has countless connections with coaches who can get him in the door with players in California. Making him focus on Texas would be foolish and shortsighted. He got Arrius Holleman last year and Seaver Myers this year. He can recruit anywhere, but taking him out of California would be cutting off a pipeline of talent.

Should he leave, his successor really has to pick it up with this state.

Right. Can't win without players from Texas (like ... most of the players on our roster).

If Klemm stays, then he has to commit to making the rounds from Laredo to Amarillo. I know Klemm can sell LA kids about getting out of town and starting a new life. He can also do it in the goldmine known as Houston.

If he does that, he is starting from scratch, whereas if he mines the fertile California talent pool, he has a leg up because of his connections. Get other coaches to hit the road from Laredo to Amarillo, but putting Klemm on that route would be wasting an incredibly valuable resource.

[dirtysouthpony]

I don't get the importance of recruiting Texas. You go where the talent is and California has way more than Texas. Have you ever been to these high school football games out here? I'm not saying there's no elite talent in Texas but if we want to be a national school we need to not limit ourselves to Texas. With finite resources, you have to set priorities. And Texas is not a #1 priority - finding talent wherever it happens to be (and SoCal has it in spades) is the #1 priority. If you are saying by recruiting Texas it will help increase attendance as folks would want to come see the "local" guy, I'm not sure ... maybe if they are from DFW but folks aren't going to drive from Houston just to see a former star high school football player (friends and family might but that's about it IMHO). By focusing so much on Texas we are limiting ourselves. I, for one, think they are recruiting perfectly.

If Klemm goes, it will be terrible and we should do whatever we can to keep him. But, at the end of the day we're all big boys and girls and know he needs to do what's best for him. Hopefully he sees SMU as a long term fit for him where he can really grow and make something his own. I, for one, think his tweets are just him sharing (especially for his recruits) the positive things people are saying about him - like sharing an award or trophy with people you like. I wouldn't read much more into it than that. But, what do I know.

I think we need to take move of a national approach to recruiting, like Stanford or Vanderbilt.

[squire]

This shouldn't be a Texas vs. the world, etiher/or type recruiting deal.
Find assistants to recruit the fertile back yard of Dallas, and Texas, of course.
But if you have a guy like Klemm with pipelines in So Cal. give him what he needs and let him go crazy!
As for Klemm not wanting to be here. Yes he will probably leave for the west coast as an assistant. But he may really want to be here as the H.C.

[jpe747]

I think the best thing we can do is ride this out for another year, see what kind of recruiting class we get, who sticks and who leaves. I hope that Marks is as good of a receiver as we think he will be. I hope we can hold on long enough to get Printz. I also want to see what Padren, Gilbert and Burcham, etc. can do. It could get real exciting around here. Jones could become quite popular again. Klemm might stick around if he feels he is being groomed to take over after Jones retires (or steps sideways into another position). That's what I hope. However, if that doesn't happen and we loose Klemm and some of these great recruits I think we are STILL moving in the right direction and being in the BE with all of the other things we have going for us, everything will work out well. The biggest problem facing SMU is putting butts in seats.

[jpe747]

I know - I misspelled Padron and probably some other words. Sorry.

[Stallion]

Well we do know that TCU recruiting almost exclusively from Texas can make it to 2 BCS games and win about 7 Conference Championships

[Charleston Pony]

wasn't it Bennett who said all we need to do is concentrate recruiting within a 300 mile radius?