Decision is in re: Casey Pachall

[Stallion]

should have donated a MILLION Dollars!!!

[RGV Pony]

Froggie we BBQ our own coach/coaches ..what the hell do you expect us to say w regard to GP

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Even with the coke-head quarterback playing it was starting to look pretty bleak for TCU this year, so by canning druggie PawHaw...which was really a no-brainer....Fatterson derives a great excuse as to why OU, Texas, and others clean his clock this season. If another big drug scandal or dui story surfaces it could mean the beginning of the end for Fatterson at TCU!

[Mexmustang]

My TCU friends that are not Patterson fans, said three things (which I can't verify):

First, Gary did not get what he wanted--a three game suspension, those in charge wouldn't see it his way,

Second, after Pachall admitted to the police earlier in the year, that he had been using a mixture of hard drugs, why didn't Patterson try to put him rehab then? Why didn't he do it when he (probably) tested positive with a number of other players, and

Third, Patterson has a minimum for five more losses ahead of him and is building his case to get a "pass" this year.

Even at TCU the head coach isn't immune to criticism and speculation...

[FroggieFever]

My TCU friends that are not Patterson fans, said three things (which I can't verify):

First, Gary did not get what he wanted--a three game suspension, those in charge wouldn't see it his way,

Second, after Pachall admitted to the police earlier in the year, that he had been using a mixture of hard drugs, why didn't Patterson try to put him rehab then? Why didn't he do it when he (probably) tested positive with a number of other players, and

Third, Patterson has a minimum for five more losses ahead of him and is building his case to get a "pass" this year.

Even at TCU the head coach isn't immune to criticism and speculation...

[ThisIsOurTime]

My TCU friends that are not Patterson fans, said three things (which I can't verify):

First, Gary did not get what he wanted--a three game suspension, those in charge wouldn't see it his way,

Second, after Pachall admitted to the police earlier in the year, that he had been using a mixture of hard drugs, why didn't Patterson try to put him rehab then? Why didn't he do it when he (probably) tested positive with a number of other players, and

Third, Patterson has a minimum for five more losses ahead of him and is building his case to get a "pass" this year.

Even at TCU the head coach isn't immune to criticism and speculation...

Time for you to stop talking to Tom, Chris and Ulysses as they know nothing about TCU.

Patterson said in the press conference today that he did not feel a 3 or 4 game suspension would do anything. The Chancellor had also previously mentioned on I think Monday that this was going to be Patterson's decision. So what you are saying is that both people are publicly lying even though both of their statements are consistent with the character and way of doing things. Finally, you talk about how Patterson needs to build a case to get a pass this season. I wonder who he would need this pass from? Certainly not the alumni, boosters and fans who are committed to GP. It would probably take 5 bad seasons in a row even to start to consider Patterson needing a pass. He is only 2 years removed from a perfect season and a Rose Bowl victory and had another BCS game the year before. In fact, last year's team just missed out on a BCS bid as well.

[numero_uno]

Anyone think that Patterson will apply for a medical waiver for Pachall? Does he qualify for one, or because he withdrew, does he automatically retain/lose a year of eligibility?

[SMU 86]

Anyone think that Patterson will apply for a medical waiver for Pachall? Does he qualify for one, or because he withdrew, does he automatically retain/lose a year of eligibility?

Pachall played in 4 games so I don't think he qualifies for a medical. If he had only played in 3 he would be eligible.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

It would probably take 5 bad seasons in a row even to start to consider Patterson needing a pass.

5 bad seasons in a row?
ha ha.....you're dreaming dude!
huge off-season drug scandal involving drug trafficking with TCU/Patterson players
now this mid-season Pawhaw embarrassment
if Fatterson has horrible results this year & again next year
i bet the war drums would be pounding!
whether it's right or wrong fans/people have short memories

[ponyte]

Patterson can go to another program without any problems. The Beloved Razorbacks is one possibility. And he handled the drug issue with this kid in a manner that will look good to a prospective employer.

[Mexmustang]

"In fact, last year's team just missed out on a BCS bid as well." You just summarized the entire TCU BS...just what little unranked team did they lose to last year?

I notice, you didn't answer or defend the fact that Patterson had two prior opportunities to put the young man in rehab and didn't! Only when it became so public and when the administration and local press wouldn't let him hide or gloss over this one did he do anything. And, please don't tell me he didn't try to get by with a three game suspension on his first try. The program has a major problem and had Patterson done anything but gloss over his teams drug tests it might have had a different ending.

Finally, I don't believe that Patterson will be fired. But, I feel his chances of self-destructing on the sideline are pretty high--about the third or fourth consecutive loss. June couldn't even pay him a compliment last year without him going off base.

[Pony81]

TCU was going to lose the rest of their games with our without Pachall.
This is an inevitable transition period from a high major to major.

They are a very good high major but with all the suspensions, dismissals, injuries they are a very bad B12 team - not Kansas bad but bad.

Does anybody think TCU will out recruit UT, OU, OSU, WV, TTU? Sorry but this is SWC 2.0 - TCU will compete with BU (if Briles leaves - if not then BU rolls them), ISU, Kansas and KState (when Snyder leaves). Perenial middle of the pack B12 team.

We will struggle as we move from pathetic CUSA to competent BE. Fortunately, we aren't playing State U in the BE and will have success provided we can hit on a decent coach.

Prediction: Patterson leaves TCU for Arkansas after this season because he sees the handwriting on the wall.

[ThisIsOurTime]

"In fact, last year's team just missed out on a BCS bid as well." You just summarized the entire TCU BS...just what little unranked team did they lose to last year?

I notice, you didn't answer or defend the fact that Patterson had two prior opportunities to put the young man in rehab and didn't! Only when it became so public and when the administration and local press wouldn't let him hide or gloss over this one did he do anything. And, please don't tell me he didn't try to get by with a three game suspension on his first try. The program has a major problem and had Patterson done anything but gloss over his teams drug tests it might have had a different ending.

Finally, I don't believe that Patterson will be fired. But, I feel his chances of self-destructing on the sideline are pretty high--about the third or fourth consecutive loss. June couldn't even pay him a compliment last year without him going off base.

And the truth comes out in this post. You are just a sad little loser who was trying to spread lies that he knew was false. Sorry SMU got beat this year but that doesn't make it ok to make stuff up about anyone on a message board for smack talk. SMU deserves and can do a whole lot better than you. Please stop embarrassing them.

[GoMustAAngs2007]

Coach Patterson met with Casey, Casey's parents, AD Chris Del Conte, and Chancellor Victor Boschini. Casey will withdrawal at TCU and enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility. Patterson worked with his family to find a facility.

Coach Patterson and his wife are very hurt over this and will be donating $100,000 to a drug and alcohol abuse support program at TCU (TCU Recovery Support Group).

He said that he didn't suspend him for three games because it wouldn't have helped him.

Very passionate about getting him help.

Maybe if he would have been suspended for admitting to drug use PRE-SEASON it might have helped.

It could have helped. Who knows.

The fact is, Patterson followed the rule book. 1st time offense = Casey receives counseling.

It's comments like these that clearly show you're actively looking for ways to nab at Patterson. Patterson follows the rules. Well he should have done more. Patterson removes Pachall from the team (when he should have only been suspended for three games), meets with his parents to arrange a rehab facility, and donates $100k to prevention/support programs (encourages people to do the same). Not enough.

I think I can speak for the majority of the SMU fan base on this one - we make comments like this are a result of Patterson and TCU fans treating SMU with a holier-than-thou, better-than-thou in everything attitude with respect to football over the past 4-5 years. Up until the drug scandal in the off season, TCU fans acted like everything was rainbows and butterflies over there while SMU was a cesspool of drug use, entitlement, and dishonesty. I understand the excitement over winning the Rose Bowl - heck, SMU fans would probably act the same way - but some TCU fans come across as astoundingly arrogant when talking about their football program.

Show me a perrenial Top 25 football program that is 100% clean and I will ask who/what is being covered up. USC proved it, Penn State proved it, TCU proved it (this is not to say that the two deserve to be lumped in together, just like SMU did not deserved to be mentioned alongside PSU when the topic of the Death Penalty came up) and soon enough there will be another major scandal.

Good for Patterson to make that donation and hopefully a good move for Pachall to go into rehab. He is lucky that no one else was injured or killed as a result of this incident.

[San Antonio Mustang]

As one who did not believe Patterson would suspend Pachall for the season, I am happy I was wrong. Pachall needs serious consequences to get his attention so he can do the work necessary to change his life. At least I think I was wrong. Some residential treatment programs run for only one month and then they continue on an out patient basis. I don't suppose Pachall will be allowed to re-enroll and back on the team after a short treatment program. As far as the donation is concerned is it to the treatment facility? Inquiring and cynical minds want to know.