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Tulsa's OL:

LT 78 Tyler Holmes (6-4, 305, Fr-RS)
75 Brandon Thomas (6-5, 270, Fr-RS)
71 Wilson Holloway (6-6, 275, Fr-RS)
LG 72 Clint Anderson (6-2, 275, Fr-HS)
60 Nick Gates (6-2, 270, So-SQ)
C 65 Jody Whaley (6-4, 311, Jr-2L)
58 Jon Bell (6-2, 274, So-1L)
RG 76 Curt Puckett (6-4, 308, Jr-1L)
60 Nick Gates (6-2, 270, So-SQ)
RT 70 Rodrick Thomas (6-5, 355, Sr-2L)
61 Travis Wike (6-4, 305, Jr-1L)

Tulsa's DL

RE 96 Wilson Garrison (6-3, 283, Jr-1L)
56 Un’Tavious Scott (6-3, 245, Jr-JC)
NG 99 Terrel Nemons (6-4, 322, Sr-3L)
96 Wilson Garrison (6-3, 283, Jr-1L)
LE 93 Moton Hopkins (6-3, 270, Sr-3L)
80 Odrick Ray (6-3, 248, So-1L)
52 Cedric Godfrey (6-2, 261, Jr-SQ)


Compare to ours:

SMU OL:

70 - Kelvin Beachum, Jr. (6-3, 281, FR-RS, Mexia, Texas)
67 - Tommy Poynter (6-4, 280, SR-2L, Irving, Texas)
Left Guard
74 - Sean Lobo (6-3, 300, SR-2L, Arlington, Texas)
77 - Josh LeRibeus (6-2, 330, FR-RS, Richardson, Texas)
Center
63 - Blake McJunkin (6-2, 256, FR-HS, Plano, Texas)
51 - Mitch Enright (6-1, 266, JR-2L, Southlake, Texas)
Right Guard
68 - Bryce Tennison (6-2, 283, FR-RS, Austin, Texas)
77 - Josh LeRibeus (6-2, 330, FR-RS, Richardson, Texas)
Right Tackle
60 - Vincent Chase (6-5, 269, SR-3L, Irving, Texas) -OR-
67 - Tommy Poynter (6-4, 280, SR-2L, Irving, Texas)

SMU's DL

47 - Taylor Thompson (6-6, 237, FR-HS, Prosper, Texas)
42 - Anthony Sowe (6-1, 234, SO-1L, Denton, Texas)
Tackle
94 - Patrick Handy (6-1, 255, SR-3L, Spring, Texas)
91 - Torlan Pittman (6-0, 275, FR-HS, Bryan, Texas)
Nose
99 - Serge Elizee (6-1, 301, SR-1L, Miami, Fla.)
46 - Zac Thomas (6-3, 250, SO-0L, Stephenville, Texas)
Right Defensive End
48 - Youri Yenga (6-1, 223, SO-1L, Euless, Texas)
89 - Patrick Fleming (6-4, 236, SO-1L, Houston, Texas)


Tulsa's 2-deep was just a tad larger than last year's Mustangs, I would say

6-2 Gates (listed twice) was a walkon. Bell is a 6-2 Center originally recruited as a DE and moved. All other Offensive Lineman are listed as 6-4 or above except one who was recruited as a Center.

The great Brad Sutton (SID), did a couple more minor changes. B J Lee and E J Drewery both wearing #7. huh?

yeah. nobody will be able to tell them apart.

ponydawg wrote:

chillinfool wrote:Wow, Willis and Sanders both became 2 inches shorter, guess JJ really chewed on them during their suspensions! Not to mention 2 inches could cost Sanders some draft positions, if he gets drafted at all.

Pretty sure his "secret" would have been figured out by the NFL before he gets drafted.

My friend who is actually 6' 1" (Willis' listed height two seasons ago when he was QB) told me that he passed Willis in Hyer hall one day and noticed that Willis was a bit shorter than he was.

ponyboy wrote:

Stallion wrote:Oh so Ponyboy tell me how you know which Tulsa and Rice players are walkons since you obviously included non-starters. I'm sure you included all our walk-ons too so that you were comparing apples to apples. Better yet who in the hell cares if Tulsa has 2 5-11 walkons on their Roster. Didn't know you followed the rosters of Rice and Tulsa so closely that you can predict ahead of time who the starters will be. You are full of crap and will invent ways to make SMU look good if the numbers don't please you. And as for our offensive line being so great-we were dead last in rushing offense last year-did you throw that into your calculations too. If you're satisfied with our opffensive line then you are nuts. Not even close to where we need to be. The freshman class of linemen do look like a step-up to me. Hope they all sit on the bench and redshirt.

All I did was take our roster, Tulsa's roster, and Rice's roster and do simple math. I'm sorry you don't like the numbers.

Question: does anyone else think that the Stallion-Ponyboy exchange makes us look like a bunch of NERDS? So what are we, Rice? I simply don't care about average offensive line size- as long as these guys don't get pushed around and we can protect the QB and run the ball, then an O-line is good.

But Stallion is right, our running game sucked last year.

Stallion wrote:6-2 Gates (listed twice) was a walkon. Bell is a 6-2 Center originally recruited as a DE and moved. All other Offensive Lineman are listed as 6-4 or above except one who was recruited as a Center.

Except for this guy unless he's the one you're saying was recruited as a center:
LG 72 Clint Anderson (6-2, 275, Fr-HS)

60 Nick Gates (6-2, 270, So-SQ)
58 Jon Bell (6-2, 274, So-1L)
60 Nick Gates (6-2, 270, So-SQ)

Really though, not too worried about Tulsa's height on their OL[/list]

The o-line play was good. The qb's weren't running for their life. The problem in the rushing game was the rb's. Lack of quickness and overall speed hurt more than the o-line. IF Butler, Lee, are heathy, Lunday, McNeill and possibly Frazier then our rushing game will be more productive. This will in turn make for an awesome passing attack. I WANT TO DIE WHILE ASLEEP LIKE MY GRANDFATHER, NOT SCREAMING IN TERROR LIKE THE PASSENGERS IN HIS CAR.

asphalt cowboy wrote:The o-line play was good. The qb's weren't running for their life. The problem in the rushing game was the rb's. Lack of quickness and overall speed hurt more than the o-line. IF Butler, Lee, are heathy, Lunday, McNeill and possibly Frazier then our rushing game will be more productive. This will in turn make for an awesome passing attack.

If it was more about the RBs, then why did the team average drop from 4.3 to 2.3 from 2008-2009? I don't think it was all just the loss of James Mapps, and pulling Willis out of there. On top of that, the bigger slower guys had better output than the smaller quicker guys. Granted Lee and Lundy were true freshmen which is never a good sign, but still; don't think you can absolve the line for their role in the lack of production in the running game.

-CoS

Stallion usually throws a gasket when wrong - the defensiveness jumps off the page. Our OL is basically the same height as Tulsa's - not saying they are better - but pretty close to the same height.

How about this for groundbreaking football insight - bigger OL's would be better. Thats the kind of robust content you come here for, eh??

You boys need to run along to the spelling bee or the science fair now......

gostangs wrote:You boys need to run along to the spelling bee or the science fair now......

He's right. Intelligence and analysis has no place in football.

What an idiot.

-CoS

I would have to say that the reason our qbs weren't running for their lives the majority of the time last year is because in JJ's system the qb gets the snap and gets the ball out quickly. Therefore, if you're not holding the ball that long you're not going to be put in the position to have to possibly run for the hills to save your a_ _.

MidlandMustang wrote:I would have to say that the reason our qbs weren't running for their lives the majority of the time last year is because in JJ's system the qb gets the snap and gets the ball out quickly. Therefore, if you're not holding the ball that long you're not going to be put in the position to have to possibly run for the hills to save your a_ _.

That and Coach McKnight did a very good job with the O-Line last year.

originaloverthehilltop1 wrote:yeah. nobody will be able to tell them apart.

lol

And I am 6 foot 2 and have walked by Willis and he seemed more like 5'10-11 to me