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Treadway21 wrote:Once JJ pulled the ASU stunt, is when more folks started to turn on him. I think some who would normally cut him some slack have less patience when he blew up one of the best recruiting classes we would have had in years. And he wrapped it up in double talk.

Stallion wrote:He's not going to get fired-jeez that's just some post-game anger blowing hot air. He might walk away when he realizes the talent level probably ain't going to get him far on next year's schedule. The best solution would be for SMU to put pressure on him to get him to throw retirement parties for 3-4 old codgers on his staff and replace them with aggressive, young recruiters with Texas ties.

1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:I'm definitely a June Jones supporter. Looking at where the program was in 2008 and where it is now, I think the results speak for themselves. Obviously, there are a lot of factors there besides June. But I think the June haters also overstate their case that he hasn't played a big role.

I have stated previously, however, that while I am grateful to June and appreciate what he's done, it is going to take new blood to move this thing to the next level. Our games the last couple of years against Big-12/SEC opponents have proven that. June's taken the program as far as its going to go with the existing talent level. And I don't see the talent level rising significantly with the current staff's recruiting efforts.

I don't see June being fired. Absent a scandal, to fire him mid-season after a three-year stretch of far and away the best football anyone has seen on the Hilltop since 1986 would be absurd and reflect poorly on SMU. It might also chill our ability to attract a top-tier replacement for anything less than an astronomical contract. Coaches don't want to step into a situation where they are just a few bad games from being canned. Maybe for a shot at UT or Alabama (which are the jobs everyone aspires to), but certainly not at SMU.

But remember that we have a new AD, and ADs like to make their mark by bringing in their own people. I see Hart and June parting ways in the next year or two and Hart and the COC going after a big-time hire with a big-time staff. Don't worry, it will happen. June isn't going to be extended again. And I promise you that the next coach will be well north of $2 million per year.

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Stallion wrote:Klemm was on the right track. Two of his WR commitments Chris Harper at Cal and Gabe Marks at WSU are already tearing it up in the PAC and would have made us a better team this year and the future

And this would have been a perfectly valid point if Marks had a snowballs chance in hell of being eligible long enough to take a single snap for SMU.

Making a statement like that I guess you know enough factual information about the young man to publicly degrade him like that. What factual information do you have to support your attack on his academic situation?

Rebel10 wrote:Let's just deflect all the blame on players and Klemm. June Jones is just only at fault a little bit for maybe a play or two he called.

Rebel10 wrote:Watch June light it up in recruiting this year with the hindrance of Klemm being gone even though he signed off on all the recruits. Can't wait to see SMU play Tech, ATM., Baylor and TCU in 2013 with all those June Jones recruits because according to PPunch we recruit better without Klemm than we do with him so I expect good things next year.

Rebel10 wrote:If Coach Jones wouldn't have hired Klemm SMU would have beaten or at least played better against Baylor and ATM.

Treadway21 wrote:

Stallion wrote:He's not going to get fired-jeez that's just some post-game anger blowing hot air. He might walk away when he realizes the talent level probably ain't going to get him far on next year's schedule. The best solution would be for SMU to put pressure on him to get him to throw retirement parties for 3-4 old codgers on his staff and replace them with aggressive, young recruiters with Texas ties.

But what are the chances of this? I can't imagine him agreeing to something like this. Or if anyone in the administration has the balls to demand it.

Rebel10 wrote:Yep PPunch he is doing a terrible job at with UCLA's line. Guess what, we have a bunch of 2 and 3 star underrecruited players now. I know you have a personal agenda against Klemm so I will just watch as you go on and on. I know you are a sponsor and have to support by June by any means necessary and taper any criticism so I will let it go at that as SMU's demise could be slow and painful as I have stated elsewhere. We will probably do better against much lower talent in a conference having a down year.

PerunaPunch wrote:For what it's worth, at least so far, I really like the addition of Timmy Chang and Jason Phillips.