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Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:29 pm
by East Coast Mustang
RebStang wrote:Not that we have an opening at the moment, but...

Young, ambitious coordinator that is known for being an aggressive recruiter.

He needs to bring an exciting brand of football and be willing to get out into the SMU and Dallas community to sell SMU to both recruits and fans/potential fans.

The type of guy I'm thinking about will be looking to springboard his career... he won't be looking at SMU as a destination job. The only coaches we're going to get that consider us a destination job right now are older coaches looking for a paycheck before retirement. It sounds weird, but mid-major programs become big time programs by rolling the dice on ambitious young coaches until they get to the point where coaches consider the program a destination job.

Todd Herman, OC, Ohio State

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:31 pm
by sbsmith
It's Tom Herman

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:38 pm
by SMUPhil
gostangs wrote:I expect us to be able to beat Michigan, since they are also kind of a mid major along with the rest of the mid west jokers that get revealed during bowl season EVERY year.

But since you asked, I expect us to be what TCU was before they joined big 12 - highly competitive with everyone and occasionally a giant killer.


Thanks, great post!

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:44 pm
by Treadway21
My expectations are:

Be competitive against TCU Tech and Baylor, on the field and in recruiting.

A coach that understands our traditions and knows how to connect with our fan base.

Works hard and has the respect if the kids that play for him.

Works to make SMU visible in the DFW community and media.

Has a staff that is hungry and works hard.

If we get someone who has some if these qualities I think attendance and record will improve. See what Larry Brown is doing (not only in court but for the SMU fans and with his staff).

The administration has ignored the fans and it shows in the stands. We can and should be successful, but it will take a guy with vision.

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:45 pm
by East Coast Mustang
sbsmith wrote:It's Tom Herman

Tom, Todd, whatever. Better than June

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:45 pm
by mrydel
Bring them both.

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:16 pm
by feelthehorsepower
East Coast Mustang wrote:
sbsmith wrote:It's Tom Herman

Tom, Todd, whatever. Better than June


Shut the [deleted] up! No coach will fix our crappy football program. June Jones who made miracles in Hawaii could not do it! Phil Bennett who is a star in Baylor could not do it! Get your head out of your [deleted]!

Re: Poll: Who Should be our Next Head Coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:17 pm
by Stallion
Baylor OC would probably get a lot of the Morris votes if Morris is not available. I want to interview about 5 guys and I want someone on the Hiring Committee to ask some tough questions about how they plan to make us nationally competitive and unite the Fan base. I want a Ron Meyer to Wow the Committee. We really need to energetic-if not young-charismatic guy who can energize the alumni

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:34 pm
by gostangs
if you had seen PB's staff you would understand why we didn't get it done. Great Coordinator. not head coach material at that point.

You are wrong FTHP - there is nothing keeping us from getting there, except fear of failure.

Re: Poll: Who Should be our Next Head Coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:37 pm
by SMU_Alumni11
Dodge isn't at NTCC anymore

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:51 pm
by East Coast Mustang
feelthehorsepower wrote:
East Coast Mustang wrote:
sbsmith wrote:It's Tom Herman

Tom, Todd, whatever. Better than June


Shut the [deleted] up! No coach will fix our crappy football program. June Jones who made miracles in Hawaii could not do it! Phil Bennett who is a star in Baylor could not do it! Get your head out of your [deleted]!

JJ didn't make miracles in Hawaii, he had an undefeated season against a terrible schedule and then predictably got scorched in the Sugar bowl against UGA. Phil Bennett is not a star at Baylor, their defense isn't very good. You seriously know nothing about college football

I'm glad June came here and forced the administrative changes necessary to compete, but he needs to go. Tom Herman would be a hell of a hire for SMU, even if he's only here 2-3 years.

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:54 pm
by Stallion
68% of June's games at Hawaii were home games in Honolulu.

Re: Realistically - who is our next head coach?

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:57 pm
by PonyKai
June Jones voluntarily paid a man named Joe Haering to be a collegiate assistant coach for numerous years with the explicit understanding that under no circumstances would this man be required to recruit student athletes. Miracle worker my rear end.

Re: Poll: Who Should be our Next Head Coach?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:24 pm
by Water Pony
Stallion wrote:Baylor OC would probably get a lot of the Morris votes if Morris is not available. I want to interview about 5 guys and I want someone on the Hiring Committee to ask some tough questions about how they plan to make us nationally competitive and unite the Fan base. I want a Ron Meyer to Wow the Committee. We really need to energetic-if not young-charismatic guy who can energize the alumni


Stallion, I agree on the importance of energy to revive our legacy, create excitement with recruits and engage the student body, which carries a great deal of responsibility in this resurrection. I am not anti-JJ and respect his FB credentials; however, I have never understood his lack of enthusiasm in promoting the program to students, alums, fans and recruits. Did JJ feel he bore no responsibility in creating excitement? Granted, our student body is easily distracted and has not connected with their role and responsibility for school spirit, but JJ must have felt he did not have to invest any energy to change attitudes outside his locker room.

Although they have Power Conference revenue, I look at results and HCs at Vanderbilt, Northwestern and, now, Duke for examples of high energy and dedication to a school as good examples of what can be accomplished. For that matter, Rice had a great year and Tulane is remerging.

We had better get on the stick soon and become a legitimate contender every year in the AAC. If we want to earn better opportunities in the future, SMU has to dominate it current conference, while energizing our fan base.

Re: Poll: Who Should be our Next Head Coach?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:43 pm
by feelthehorsepower
Ed Orgeron: He would get us top recruits we would only dream of getting at this point