Phil's first recruiting class...

EasternMarketPony · Post by **EasternMarketPony** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:40 am

Anyone able to put together each one of Phil's recruiting classes and then elaborate on what each player is doing now? (i.e., Humphry starts at safety, John Doe got a girl pregnant and dropped out of school.) I'd be very curious to see what each player is doing now.

Mustang1412 · Post by **Mustang1412** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:05 pm

Wow...that sucks about John Doe.

HFvictory · Post by **HFvictory** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:09 pm

Signed Letter of Intent Team Rankings: SMU ranks no. 70 nationally

Name Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR(?) video Hometown

Anthony Barnett RB 5-10 180 4.4 - Dallas, TX - Gone
Mike Benson OL 6-5 265 - - Houston, TX - Gone
Kelvin Cox DB 6-0 175 4.4 - Garland, TX - Gone
Grant Eidson OL 5-10 260 5 - Highland Park, TX - Gone
James Elliott ATH 6-4 190 4.5 - Sonora, TX - Gone
Daniel Francis ATH 5-10 160 4.5 - Port Arthur, TX - Gone
Donnie Gilray QB 6-3 210 4.6 - Rowlett, TX - Gone
Mark Hodges ATH 6-4 200 - - Mesquite, TX - Gone
Cole Horton LB 6-5 215 - - Houston, TX - Gone
Brent Karrington DE 6-4 245 - - Dallas, TX - Gone
Chris Poulos OL 6-3 277 5.1 - Arlington, TX - Gone

Jamar Bey LB 6-3 205 4.63 - Houston, TX -
Reggie Carrington LB 6-1 215 - - Tomball, TX
Randy Denman DT 6-2 265 5 - Dayton, TX
Robert Gilmore DB 6-2 175 4.5 - Euless, TX
Martin Guidry OL 6-4 265 - - Beaumont, TX
Jamey Harper DB 6-1 175 - - Atlanta, TX
Rolando Humphrey DB 5-8 160 4.5 - Duncanville, TX
Darrin Johnson OL 6-6 270 5.2 - Dallas, TX
Ryan Kennedy TE 6-5 235 4.6 - Beeville, TX
Ryan Mentzel K 6-1 185 - - Midlothian, TX
Dustin Morton OL 6-4 277 5.4 - Conroe, TX
Chris Urbanus OL 6-5 280 5.2 - Alvarado, TX
Justin Rogers DE 6-3 205 - - Greenville, TX

ALEX LIFESON · Post by **ALEX LIFESON** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:46 pm

i would still like to have wr-Daniel Francis, and Grant Eidson for deep snapper.

Charleston Pony · Post by **Charleston Pony** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:26 pm

to be fair, that was not really Bennett's 1st class...it was mostly Cavan's. You'd have to post the next season's group for Bennett's 1st true recruiting class. They would be the guys now in their 3rd year in the program...either JRs of RS Sophs...and hopefully the key to Bennett's long term tenure at SMU

HFvictory · Post by **HFvictory** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:32 pm

Here is the class, have at it:

Signed Letter of Intent Team Rankings: SMU ranks no. 62 nationally

Name Pos Stars Ht Wt 40 RR(?) video Hometown

Charlie Berry DE 6-3 250 4.8 - Dallas, TX
Brandon Bonds DT 6-2 305 5 - Cooper, TX
Justin Boren OL 6-4 285 5 - Grapevine, TX
Kennard Burley OL 6-5 300 5.2 - Rossier, TX
Avery Cleveland LB 6-3 205 4.55 - Austin, TX
Jay'Mond Cleveland WR 5-11 175 4.5 - Baytown, TX
Lucky DeLay DE 6-4 255 4.76 - Irving, TX
Cedrick Dorsey ATH 5-11 190 4.4 - New Boston, TX
Zach Hall LB 6-3 225 4.7 - Irving, TX
Desmond Jones DT 6-1 275 4.8 - Dallas, TX
Richuel Massey RB 5-11 210 4.4 - Hillsboro, TX
Ervin McGee DB 5-8 175 4.4 - Ardmore, OK
Ricky Joe Meeks QB 6-3 215 4.7 - Mount Vernon, TX
C.D. Moss DB 5-10 180 4.5 - Copperas Cove, TX
Cory Muse LB 6-3 205 4.6 - Oklahoma City, OK
Reynaldo Pellerin WR 6-3 190 4.5 - Houston, TX
Caleb Peveto OL 6-4 280 5 - Highland Village, TX
Chris Phillips QB 6-3 220 4.6 - Seagoville, TX
Joe Sturdivant DB 6-2 190 4.5 - Lilburn, GA
Bryan Turner OL 6-2 290 - - Tyler, TX
Fred Turner ATH 5-7 170 4.5 - Arlington, TX
Blake Warren WR 5-7 170 4.5 - Arp, TX
Ryan Wolcott K 5-9 170 4.7 - Dallas, TX

PlanoStang · Post by **PlanoStang** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:53 pm

OK HFVictory, since you may already have been keeping records. How
many of these guys are still with the team?

Anybody know the average Div. 1A retention rate of Jrs., and redshirt
Sophs.?

Hmmmm, may have a new "Coaching Ratio", unless it already exists.

Coaching Ratio = avg. recruiting class rank for the last 4 or 5 years /
avg. final season rank of Sagarin, and a couple others

Highest positive number ratio WINS.

Charleston Pony · Post by **Charleston Pony** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:26 pm

I count only 6 casualties and a bunch of guys who should contribute this year. This is the class that needs to win before they finish their careers at SMU.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:29 pm

that coaching ratio would not tell you which teams would be best because not all recruiting classes are equal. If they were Rice would be National Champions every year.

PlanoStang · Post by **PlanoStang** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:38 pm

Stallion wrote:that coaching ratio would not tell you which teams would be best because not all recruiting classes are equal. If they were Rice would be National Champions every year.

Not intended to be a predictor of the best teams. It would be a
diamond in the rough analysis of COACHING PERFORMANCE.

Hatfield is pretty good with that ratio, isn't he??