Our defensive scheme

[Alaric]

Was it just me or did we run almost the same defense every play, hardly ever stunt, didn't disguise anything, straight up, no nickel packages...geez. We disguised things more at my high school. Easy pickings for C Florida

[perunapower]

There was a scheme?

[docabel]

Our offensive "scheme" was just as disapointing. It seemed like we did a better job in running out the clock this week when down by 30, than we did last week when up by 14. Would have liked to seen Rhodes given a real offense to run - 4 runs and a screen pass then repeat didn't really tell me anything about him...

[Treadway21]

How about punting on 4th and 3 at the 45 when down by 20 points? I have never booed SMU before, don't believe in booing your own team, but I may have booed that decision - and if I didn't I was thinking it.

[SMUer]

Was it just me or did we run almost the same defense every play, hardly ever stunt, didn't disguise anything, straight up, no nickel packages...geez. We disguised things more at my high school. Easy pickings for C Florida

SO TRUE. Whenever I mention this to people all I get is blank stares and "but look who we recruit..." stumblings. For me this is exhibit A of why I question Phil's coaching abilities. High school kids do that stuff and when you're undersized/underspeed doing those things are the difference between competing and being totally exploited defensively...

[Stallion]

would you shut up with the coaching [deleted]. Now its the defensive scheme. You don't know the first thing about what you are talking about. The fact is that Kevin Smith could have run for 350 yards if UCF had wanted him too-just like Forte ran for over 300 just like NTSU had 601 with a WR over 300. SMU defense sucked yesterday-it will suck next week-it will suck next year when Superman gets here until we get some talent on defense. Sit back and enjoy.

[SMUer]

would you shut up with the coaching [deleted]. Now its the defensive scheme. You don't know the first thing about what you are talking about. SMU defense sucked yesterday-it will suck next week-it will suck next year when Superman gets here until we get some talent on defense. Sit back and enjoy.

You know what though? Just because you have [?] inferior players doesn't mean you give up trying to do things that good defensive units do. Our defense would suck less (or at least slow the yardage bleeding) if opposing QBs had more difficult time picking up our coverages or offensive linemen had to deal with picking up switching defensive linemen or clever blitzes. There is NO excuse for a "defensive genius" not to work these in his defense (especially in situations where he knows his guys are overmatched). Of all the things we can lament about, I think this is one thing we should be INFURIATED about because it shows a lack of teaching/effort on PB's part and frankly SMU fans deserved better.

[cguru]

i really think that the problem is the lack of talent, not the "schemes." and i really have a hard time believing that PB just gave up, considering pride is at stake.

[Alaric]

would you shut up with the coaching [deleted]. Now its the defensive scheme. You don't know the first thing about what you are talking about. The fact is that Kevin Smith could have run for 350 yards if UCF had wanted him too-just like Forte ran for over 300 just like NTSU had 601 with a WR over 300. SMU defense sucked yesterday-it will suck next week-it will suck next year when Superman gets here until we get some talent on defense. Sit back and enjoy.

You sir, are an idiot. You attack my point assuming I don't realize they have more talent than us. I do. This is just another case of Stallion living in his own egocentric world. I was making an observation that SMU ran the same base defense almost the entire game. How do you derive that I don't know anything about football? Good coaches upgrade talent and do a good job coaching on the field.

[SMUer]

would you shut up with the coaching [deleted]. Now its the defensive scheme. You don't know the first thing about what you are talking about. The fact is that Kevin Smith could have run for 350 yards if UCF had wanted him too-just like Forte ran for over 300 just like NTSU had 601 with a WR over 300. SMU defense sucked yesterday-it will suck next week-it will suck next year when Superman gets here until we get some talent on defense. Sit back and enjoy.

Stallion, you talk about coaches as if they are creatively impotent/slaves to their talent. My experience hasn't shown that...has yours? I've seen too many highly-tauted teams with superior players choke to more cleverly coached/inferior teams to accept that view.

[cguru]

[quote="SMUer"][quote="Stallion"]would you shut up with the coaching [deleted]. Now its the defensive scheme. You don't know the first thing about what you are talking about. The fact is that Kevin Smith could have run for 350 yards if UCF had wanted him too-just like Forte ran for over 300 just like NTSU had 601 with a WR over 300. SMU defense sucked yesterday-it will suck next week-it will suck next year when Superman gets here until we get some talent on defense. Sit back and enjoy.[/quote]

Stallion, you talk about coaches as if they are creatively impotent/slaves to their talent. My experience hasn't shown that...has yours? I've seen too many highly-tauted teams with superior players choke to more cleverly coached/inferior teams to accept that view.[/quote]


except those teams played with something that we didn't yesterday...HEART

[ACHall]

During the Rice game, Bennett had seven rushing nearly everytime it was third down or in the red zone. We don't have the talent to get to the QB rushing seven, thus there were open Owls downfield. Bennett knows we don't have the talent/healthy players to effectively rush the QB, yet he still does it over and over again. That's on him. All of the Rice scores in the fourth happened this way, and that doesn't even take into account the offensive play calling in that game. This year should show more than any that you can win with less talented teams if your team is well motivated, decently prepped and put in the best possible position to take advantage. Bennett struck out on all three, This year, last year and every year. Can't wait to be able to leave Ford one day and not feel like we got out-coached, win or loss.

[Stallion]

that was just about as plain vanilla basic an offense that is run in Division 1A Football-they lined up and and ran the ball on sweeps and then right at us. Then they ran some simple curl routes all day. The just simply pounded us. They were heading toward 700 yards until they called off the Dogs. It didn't take a genuis coordinator to stop that offense. You just can't accept the fact that the guys we are throwing out there these days are inferior talent. Almost to a man they are some combination of two slow, too small, too short, inexperienced, not agile, and physically overmatched. Could not be more plain to see. Go watch some College Football.

[ACHall]

We figured UCF was a loss anyway. UTEP, Rice and Tulane are the games we lost because of coaching. Not even prep, we lost those because of game day coaching.

[docabel]

It was a vanilla offense, but we still didn't even know UCF brought a punter until they "called off the dogs". If we were overmatched (and I agree we were) physically, then running a vanilla defense will lead to an @sswhooping every time.

Compare this to the NBA. Physically very few players can match up one on one with Shaq because of his superior talent/size, etc. Do all these teams just say "well were not big enough, etc" and let him score 50 a night. No. They "trick up" their defenses with swithches, double teams. I saw none of that last night.

Then again, as PB said in the paper today, the coaches were all preoccupied with geting their resumes out on monster.com.