Gary Gibbs > Kragthorpe?

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:58 pm

Maybe Stallion's right. Take the cryptic description that had us all thinking Kragthorpe (school in Texas, coached in Texas, coached in the NFL, BCS Head Coach experience), subtract the part about going to college in Texas (went to OU), and Gibbs fits it better than Kragthorpe.

People forget his average record at OU was 7-4. The beef was he couldn't beat Texas or Nebraska. If he comes to SMU and beats everyone but Texas & Nebraska, I'll take him.

If our ideal guy was Butch Davis, I don't know that Gibbs isn't the second most appealing in the same mold.

This would also lend credence to Orsini "not talking to anyone until after Christmas," mentioned on another thread.

As far as name recognition to Joe Blow, not a wow. Recognition to folks who know something about football, right up there with Butch Davis, IMO.

that's great raplh · Post by **that's great raplh** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:14 pm

who is this guy?

StallionsModelT · Post by **StallionsModelT** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:22 pm

Gibbs was the defensive coordinator for OU during the Switzer era who eventually replaced Switzer as head coach. As mentioned he was unable to beat Texas and Nebraska which gets you fired at OU. He wouldn't be a terrible choice but I doubt he's someone we are seriously looking at.

biggin · Post by **biggin** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:25 pm

that's great raplh wrote:who is this guy?

Currently DC for the New Orleans Saints. Not a wow, but probably not a loser of a choice.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:26 pm

Defensive Coordinator at OU, LSU and Georgia plus offered the Coordinator Job at A&M. I think he was the LB Coach with the Dallas Cowboys under Parcells then moved back to Coordinator with the Saints when the Cowboys Coach became the Head Coach at New Orleans.

http://www.neworleanssaints.com/Team/Co ... Gibbs.aspx

SMU Football Blog · Post by **SMU Football Blog** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:27 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:Gibbs was the defensive coordinator for OU during the Switzer era who eventually replaced Switzer as head coach. As mentioned he was unable to beat Texas and Nebraska which gets you fired at OU. He wouldn't be a terrible choice but I doubt he's someone we are seriously looking at.

Plus he had to clean up Switzer's mess. Had some difficult sanctions to contend with

that's great raplh · Post by **that's great raplh** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:29 pm

i still like gil turner

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:32 pm

this guy was the Bob Stoops of the 1980s-meaning as the brightest defensive coordinator of his era. OU, Georgia, LSU and A&M plus the Cowboys don't hire chumps. The most dominating defensive unit in the country during his defensive coordinator tenure. 44-23 at OU with a roster depleted from recruiting restrictions and limitations after Switzer's NCAA probation. Thick resume but still only about 55.

"During his stretch as defensive coordinator, the Sooners captured the 1985 national title, and the defense led the nation three straight years (1985-87)."

He was only TWENTY SEVEN YEARS old when he became the Defensive Coordinator and dominated college football.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:48 pm

BTW Gary Gibbs was good enough and highly thought of enough that the Dallas Cowboys interviewed Gibbs last year for their head coaching job. Not good enough for SMU?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... fa784.html

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:57 pm

Stallion wrote:BTW Gary Gibbs was good enough and highly thought of enough that the Dallas Cowboys interviewed Gibbs last year for their head coaching job. Not good enough for SMU?

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... fa784.html

Good point. Let's look at quality of candidate, paying special attention to resume:

Gibbs > Kragthorpe (on defensive prowess & big time experience)
Gibbs > Bowden Terry & Tommy(longevity & NFL experience)
Gibbs > Johnson (NFL experience)
Gibbs > Gill (experience)
Gibbs > Fran (less of a pr*ck)
Gibbs > Nutt (less of a weirdo)
Gibbs > Greg Davis (I'd rather not have a UT asst)
Gibbs=Butch Davis
Gibbs < Barnett (Turner doesn't want Barnett)
Gibbs=Neuheisel
Gibbs>Applewhite (NFL & college HC experience)

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:07 am

that's great raplh wrote:i still like gil turner

That's Turner Gill to the rest of us.

Statler · Post by **Statler** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:17 am

Two words...

"Cowboy Connection."

Dwan · Post by **Dwan** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:29 am

I do like Gibbs's resume. Dont get me wrong. But there has to be a reason he has not gotten another shot in the last 15 years? Not only that, with the exception of this board, he has never been mentioned for a college HC job. Either we know more than the people who interview and hire college head coaches (we might) or something smells about this guy.

Dwan · Post by **Dwan** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:41 am

I think the stink might be that he was on staff at OU and was the best defensive coordinator in the nation on a team and program that had rampant NCAA violations. If that is not the stink for other colleges, it seems like enough of a stink for us.

Scoops · Post by **Scoops** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:59 am

MrMustang1965 wrote:
that's great raplh wrote:i still like gil turner
That's Turner Gill to the rest of us.

Gill isn't coming to Dallas. It's Lincoln for the Nebraska job, or staying in Buffalo.