North Texas

locostang · Post by **locostang** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:21 pm

is kicking our a**es in recruiting right now. The now have 7 top 100 area recruits. SMU has 1. http://dallasnews.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1983

Pony in SA · Post by **Pony in SA** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:27 pm

North Texas also has good relations with Alamo Heights, Clark, and Judson high schools down here just to name a few. The QB and WR they signed off of Alamo Heights state championship team last year likely will be joined by another good WR and possibly a LB.

papawasamustang · Post by **papawasamustang** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:28 pm

TD is doing a great job in Denton.

Remember, these are committments and some will change their minds.

If it looks like this after NSD than I will be concerned.

I still hold out hope that the new coach situation will happen soon & the recruiting situation will be ok.

Italian Mustang · Post by **Italian Mustang** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:28 pm

and those recruits probably got in the 3 digits on the SAT

chillinfool · Post by **chillinfool** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:33 pm

Their drinking the Dodge kool-aid, but then again, why would any kid want to come to SMU until a coach is named. SMU will be left with the recruiting scraps that no other school wants. The only good thing is with the injuries last year and some Freshmen having to play, we should actually have a more experienced team.

Pony in SA · Post by **Pony in SA** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:33 pm

Not hardly as the Alamo Heights kids were / are extremely bright and the academics there is above other local public schools. Alamo Heights is like the Highland Park of San Antonio.

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:36 pm

They do have the advantage of having a coach right now. Not that that's very important to potential recruits.

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:37 pm

That is like saying NTSU is kicking our butt in track right now. We do not have a track team and we do not have a "recruiting" team. I will say that things do not look good right now especially from what I had hoped would be a loosened restriction JC signing period, but lets get a coach and then we can change our gripe mode from the coaching search to our pitiful recruiting.

Billy Joe · Post by **Billy Joe** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:44 pm

When has SMU ever lit up the recruiting trails post death penatly era? The win loss record is directly attributed to SMU's lack of success in recruiting. A big negative with SMU (as I continually harp on this board) is the inability to attract transfers and Juco players due to SMU's unwillingness to accept the credit hours. SMU also does a horrible job at attracting DISD recruits. Fix those two areas and SMU's win loss record will improve overnight.

SoCal_Pony · Post by **SoCal_Pony** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:19 pm

Billy Joe wrote:When has SMU ever lit up the recruiting trails post death penatly era?

Actually, we lit it up during PB's 1st real recruiting class, 10 3-Stars if I am not mistaken.

It was PB's honeymoon period, which we are currently losing THIS year.

Without JC help, we could very well stink it up on the field next year with our new HC losing some of his recruiting momentum, much like PB did once the losses started piling up for him.

That is what I most don't understand about this delay.

mustang91 · Post by **mustang91** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:32 pm

Keeping it in perspective we are not recruiting right now. No offense to Dodge, because he is a good coach and recruiter. But if and when we get a coach, even Fran, NTSU will have trouble recruiting against us. But isn't that the way it should be.

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:38 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:Actually, we lit it up during PB's 1st real recruiting class, 10 3-Stars if I am not mistaken.

It was PB's honeymoon period, which we are currently losing THIS year.

Without JC help, we could very well stink it up on the field next year with our new HC losing some of his recruiting momentum, much like PB did once the losses started piling up for him.

That is what I most don't understand about this delay.

PB was able to sell some recruits on the idea that he was going to turn things around. He did not have losses on his resume at SMU at the time that would dispute that selling point. The same did not hold true after a year.

The new coach will not have a significant amount of time to sell the same story. If he has a limited amount of time prior to signing day he will get the scraps. If he does not win some games next year with the "talent" we have he will have the losses to counter his selling points. This delay is setting him up to fail unless he catches lightning in a bottle and wins some games next year.

Charlie NT73 · Post by **Charlie NT73** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:41 pm

Coach Dodge stated that recruiting the Dallas Ft Worth metroplex was
a high priority. Looks like he is proving the point.
Last count, I believe, shows 10 kids from the Dallas Morning News top
100 metroplex D1 recruits have given their verbal to Coach Dodge.
For the Houston Chronical's top 100 area D1 recruits, I believe
Coach Dodge has 2 commitments off the Chronical's list.
Last year, Coach Dodge only had 3 weeks to put a class together.
Coach Dodge and his staff completed a great class, signing 18 kids.
Interesting point with these kids is, half of these true freshman played
or started in all NT games last year, gaining valuable college game
experience. The other half of the 2007 class, Coach Dodge red shirted.
Honestly, I do think the current situation with the HFC search is hurting your recruiting efforts right now. Even after a HFC is hired, the new coach must put togeher a staff, then hit the recruiting trails. Recruiting succes
will be based on who the next HFC will be. The number reason a kid signs
with any school is the HFC and his staff.

papawasamustang · Post by **papawasamustang** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:43 pm

Its very difficult for me to see UNT showing great progress in both men's football & basketball. There is much to look forward to in Denton.

Looking @ SMU, the statement can be made that they may have the worst combination of men's football & basketball in major college sports.

That's the reality. They are doing it & you can see the progress.
I see no signs of progress in the SMU men's basketball team & the football team coaching situation is confusing. Yes SMU beat UNT this year in football but remember the year before.

IMO, this is extremely embarrassing for SMU.

I hold out hope that SO will make a good hire. I have serious doubts about the Doh hire. Not just based on this year, but last year & previous years.

SO needs to hit a home run.

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:50 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:When has SMU ever lit up the recruiting trails post death penatly era?

Actually, we lit it up during PB's 1st real recruiting class, 10 3-Stars if I am not mistaken.

It was PB's honeymoon period, which we are currently losing THIS year.

Without JC help, we could very well stink it up on the field next year with our new HC losing some of his recruiting momentum, much like PB did once the losses started piling up for him.

That is what I most don't understand about this delay.

my point completely. honeymoon periods are very important. every coach has one, even Bennett. Cant artifically shorten the honeymoon by taking the first year of recruiting away.

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