All Kentucky is talking about today ...

Argyle Pony · Post by **Argyle Pony** » Fri May 02, 2008 10:28 am

All Kentucky is talking about today is that fact that McCoy went to SMU but the got a commitment from an 8th Grader...robbing craddle huh?...Go Mustangs!!!

smu diamond m · Post by **smu diamond m** » Fri May 02, 2008 10:32 am

Ken got an 8th grader committed? Is that a joke?

Argyle Pony · Post by **Argyle Pony** » Fri May 02, 2008 8:07 pm

No joke...it is already all over their board...he is 6'4" in eighth grade...Arkansas has a 6'5 9th grader committed also...

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Fri May 02, 2008 8:43 pm

Argyle Pony wrote:...Arkansas has a 6'5 9th grader committed also...

Yeah but he is 23 years old.

smu diamond m · Post by **smu diamond m** » Fri May 02, 2008 9:31 pm

mrydel wrote:
Argyle Pony wrote:...Arkansas has a 6'5 9th grader committed also...

Yeah but he is 23 years old.

Isnt that the average age in Arky?

expony18 · Post by **expony18** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:18 am

mrydel wrote:
Argyle Pony wrote:...Arkansas has a 6'5 9th grader committed also...

Yeah but he is 23 years old.

but he reads at a sophomore level

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Sat May 03, 2008 11:48 am

Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

PonyDoh · Post by **PonyDoh** » Sat May 03, 2008 6:02 pm

CalallenStang wrote:Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

DohMatt is a phenomenal nickname and pretty much how the ACC will view ol'Doh, until he gets to the dance consistently

mathman · Post by **mathman** » Sat May 03, 2008 6:14 pm

PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

DohMatt is a phenomenal nickname and pretty much how the ACC will view ol'Doh, until he gets to the dance consistently

Why is that?

PonyDoh · Post by **PonyDoh** » Sat May 03, 2008 6:16 pm

mathman wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

DohMatt is a phenomenal nickname and pretty much how the ACC will view ol'Doh, until he gets to the dance consistently

Why is that?

b/c they mean it as doormat

mathman · Post by **mathman** » Sat May 03, 2008 6:32 pm

PonyDoh wrote:
mathman wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

DohMatt is a phenomenal nickname and pretty much how the ACC will view ol'Doh, until he gets to the dance consistently

Why is that?

b/c they mean it as doormat

I knew that. Just wondered why you thought it was phenomenal.

PonyDoh · Post by **PonyDoh** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:33 pm

mathman wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
mathman wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

DohMatt is a phenomenal nickname and pretty much how the ACC will view ol'Doh, until he gets to the dance consistently

Why is that?

b/c they mean it as doormat

I knew that. Just wondered why you thought it was phenomenal.

Well, considering their frame of reference, it's on point. I love Doh for SMU, but his tenure at UNC was comical at best. The nickname fits the man during that tenure

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Sun May 04, 2008 8:12 am

PonyDoh wrote:
mathman wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
mathman wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Great quote from the UVA board on Kentucky's commit:

"They don't want to lose him late to SMU and DohMatt"

http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/b ... 020232.php

DohMatt is a phenomenal nickname and pretty much how the ACC will view ol'Doh, until he gets to the dance consistently

Why is that?

b/c they mean it as doormat

I knew that. Just wondered why you thought it was phenomenal.

Well, considering their frame of reference, it's on point. I love Doh for SMU, but his tenure at UNC was comical at best. The nickname fits the man during that tenure

Doherty was young a young and inexperienced HC at UNC with only 1 year of HC experience. His problems were related more to the alienation of the team than his coaching. I think most of his problems were well documented.

PonyDoh keeps saying he's a horrible on the court coach but that he can recruit. I'm willing to give someone a pass for EARLY in their career for not being up to ACC on the court coaching standards. I'd love some analysis/examples of his poor coaching. I'd also like to see PonyDoh's analysis on whether or not he's improved those problems now that he's no longer in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th year coaching at the highest profile job in college bb. Please don't just say he lost to Prairie View or similar general comments...I can just as easily make a broad statement that he was playing with a ton of freshman.

carolsmu · Post by **carolsmu** » Sun May 04, 2008 8:58 am

I actually think Doherty made a scheduling mistake last year. I know what he was trying to do: Really young team so you schedule lots of mid-majors in order to get confidence for the young ones. Problem is that mid-majors these days often beat bigger name schools in regular season and tourney. And when bigger name school loses to mid-majors, confidence suffers esp with freshmen. Probably would have been better to schedule big name programs, take some serious lumps: losing big to a name school probably is less emotionally damaging than to a a mid-major (you EXPECT to lose to the name program with a young team and see it as part of gaining experience).

He's obviously a terrific recruiter. From watching him in passing at ND, UNC and FAU, I actually think he is a quite solid (not Bo Ryan great but improving) teacher and game coach. Obviously with any coach with 5-7 years of HC experience you are learning as you go and time will tell

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Sun May 04, 2008 9:40 am

carolsmu wrote:I actually think Doherty made a scheduling mistake last year. I know what he was trying to do: Really young team so you schedule lots of mid-majors in order to get confidence for the young ones. Problem is that mid-majors these days often beat bigger name schools in regular season and tourney. And when bigger name school loses to mid-majors, confidence suffers esp with freshmen. Probably would have been better to schedule big name programs, take some serious lumps: losing big to a name school probably is less emotionally damaging than to a a mid-major (you EXPECT to lose to the name program with a young team and see it as part of gaining experience).

He's obviously a terrific recruiter. From watching him in passing at ND, UNC and FAU, I actually think he is a quite solid (not Bo Ryan great but improving) teacher and game coach. Obviously with any coach with 5-7 years of HC experience you are learning as you go and time will tell

I don't know that I'd classify the likes of Centenary, Alabama St, SC Upstate and Southern as "mid-majors." Any of these teams, in their best of seasons, would be relegated to the play-in game were they to make it to the dance.