Compliance Question

BUS · Post by **BUS** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:48 pm

If you got an announcement of graduation sent to you from the parent about a student athlete, is is legal to send a small gift?

I ask because the student may be playing a sport even after their first graduation.

Thank you for clarification.

I do not want to be rude but also do not what to get my school into an issue.

THANKS

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:53 pm

BUS wrote:If you got an announcement of graduation sent to you from the parent about a student athlete, is is legal to send a small gift?

I ask because the student may be playing a sport even after their first graduation.

Thank you for clarification.

I do not want to be rude but also do not what to get my school into an issue.

THANKS

are you a member of the booster club?

PonyPlayer4 · Post by **PonyPlayer4** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:54 pm

My own uncle, who worked for the athletic dept at university of Iowa, wouldn't even give me sideline passes to a football game for my bday when I was a recruitable athlete. Silly some of the rules.

Sorry I don't have an answer to your question.

SMUCompliance · Post by **SMUCompliance** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:10 pm

BUS wrote:If you got an announcement of graduation sent to you from the parent about a student athlete, is is legal to send a small gift?

I ask because the student may be playing a sport even after their first graduation.

Thank you for clarification.

I do not want to be rude but also do not what to get my school into an issue.

THANKS

BUS: Thank you for your message. It is not permissible to provide cash or other gifts to a graduating student-athlete or a student-athlete who is exhausting his/her eligibility. Such provisions would be considered impermissible extra benefits. Let me know if you have questions or need more information. Thanks - Kyle Conder, Sr. Associate AD for Compliance.

NCAA Bylaw 16.02.3 - Extra Benefit.
An extra benefit is any special arrangement by an institutional employee or a representative of the institution's athletics interests to provide a student-athlete or the student-athlete's relative or friend a benefit not expressly authorized by NCAA legislation. Receipt of a benefit by student-athletes or their relatives or friends is not a violation of NCAA legislation if it is demonstrated that the same benefit is generally available to the institution's students or their relatives or friends or to a particular segment of the student body (e.g., international students, minority students) determined on a basis unrelated to athletics ability. (Revised: 1/10/91)

NCAA Bylaw 16.11.2.1 - General Rule.
The student-athlete shall not receive any extra benefit. The term "extra benefit" refers to any special arrangement by an institutional employee or representative of the institution├óΓé¼Γäós athletics interests to provide the student-athlete or his or her relatives or friends with a benefit not expressly authorized by NCAA legislation. [R]

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:40 pm

GSS, send them a congratulatory card, with a printout of the above compliance with "sorry you're not done with school" in red sharpie across it.

make light of the situation. they'll probably think it's funny, and you still show your gratitude and appreciation of their accomplishment!

2ndandlong · Post by **2ndandlong** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:00 pm

Welcome Kyle

Get_Some_Ponies · Post by **Get_Some_Ponies** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:33 pm

That sucks. Seems like a graduation gift is something available to just about any other student with family friends. What about a job offer? Can you take a job offer before you graduate or play your last game?

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:26 am

Get_Some_Ponies wrote:That sucks. Seems like a graduation gift is something available to just about any other student with family friends. What about a job offer? Can you take a job offer before you graduate or play your last game?

yes. When I was in public accounting we offered athletes internships all the time. If they are actually working, jobs are permissible.

soccermom · Post by **soccermom** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:31 am

yes. When I was in public accounting we offered athletes internships all the time. If they are actually working, jobs are permissible.[/quote]
LOL...unless you're a ut athlete & then you get paid w/out ever going to work.

RyanSMU98 · Post by **RyanSMU98** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:40 am

So, if BUS buys this kid a gift, and then give his roommate (assuming not also an athlete) a gift of equal value, thus demonstrating "that the same benefit is generally available to the institution's students or their relatives or friends", is that then OK? I like Dutch's idea, and I get the need for these kinds of rules but it seems really crappy to put someone in this position when absolutely no ill will is intended. Sorry, BUS, sounds like a bit of a raw deal.

Dutch · Post by **Dutch** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:47 am

Or just wait til after they're done playing. The kid should understand.

BUS · Post by **BUS** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:08 am

Thank you for this information.

ponyscott · Post by **ponyscott** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:12 am

BUS...whatever you were going to get him ...just give to me! Just drop it by my office.

Terry Webster · Post by **Terry Webster** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:36 am

Or you can make a gift to my church...tax deductible even.

whitwiki · Post by **whitwiki** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:51 am

Or Cam Newtons church