ut sells 5,700 for bowl?

ALEX LIFESON · Post by **ALEX LIFESON** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:34 pm

http://www.cbs8.com/story/16401319/over ... liday-bowl

GiddyUp · Post by **GiddyUp** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:39 pm

you missed a zero - 57,000 sold total, 11,000 for each school allotment

huskerpony · Post by **huskerpony** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:20 am

GiddyUp wrote:you missed a zero - 57,000 sold total, 11,000 for each school allotment

Also said UT only sold half of its allotment. Donated the rest.

GiddyUp · Post by **GiddyUp** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:23 am

ok, 5,500 then. I'm kind of tired of tracking attendance all the way around. Getting ridiculous....people can't travel as much due to economy and don't care about a 6 or 7 win teams.

Mitch McConnell · Post by **Mitch McConnell** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:31 am

Attendance talk is just a total beatdown.

gostangs · Post by **gostangs** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:56 am

5500 is about 10% of their enrollment - that would be the equivalent of us drawing 600 in birmingham.

2ndandlong · Post by **2ndandlong** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:03 am

We should start another thread on attendance and marketing. They are always fun and light-hearted with creative ideas that are realistic and easy to implement.

ponyte · Post by **ponyte** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:11 am

The stadium looked pretty well filled on TV. Some empty seats but a great showing all in all.

PoconoPony · Post by **PoconoPony** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:09 am

How does an athletic department make any $$$$$ on a bowl game when they cannot sell out their allotment and end up donating half their allotment??????? Seems to me that these bowl games are really getting over hyped as to actual financial benefits. By the time a team pays its travel costs...etc. and makes their split with the conference it would appear that virtually every bowl game ends up costing the school far more than they make. I would like to see some serious analysis of the actual costs involved in a bowl game and weigh this against any benefits derived by the university. I recall one article last year wherein Penn State actually lost nearly $500,000 on their bowl game.

ponyte · Post by **ponyte** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:29 am

And how much publicity and advertising (via bowl exposure) do schools get? I bet Penn State could have gotten as much or more advertising and publicity last year if they just didn't go to the bowl game and save that money.

Of course Penn State will have to pay a lot more than half a million in PR cash to overcome the Sandusky publicity (which by the way cost them nothing). Too bad they choose to go to a bowl game and lose half a million instead of staying home and having that half million to use in Anti Sandusky PR.

Bowls and the promotion and TV air time that come with bowls are huge PR campaigns for all schools. SMU will get a little air time to promote the school beyond the game presentation. That alone is worth a pretty chunk of change. And usually those ads promote the school, not the athletic program.

Did Penn State gets its half million in free PR? Maybe. But Penn State would have gotten nothing had they not been in a bowl.

Does SMU get good PR when ESPN and every TV program explain that we are going to the third bowl in a row? Most would say we are getting good PR. Does it help recruiting to have 3 bowls in a row? No doubt it does and it may save us some recruiting cash as well.
Bowls are not always about making gobs of cash. There is publicity and advertising that comes with bowls that gives schools a PR advantage. And probably at a bargain even if the school loses half a million (half a million doesn’t buy anywhere near the PR a school gets from hours of TV exposure).

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:55 am

yes but with a little rational problem solving these bowls could be solvent. Louisiana Laffeyette sends 30,000 to New Orleans Bowl-but big schools traveling across country can only sell a fraction. The selection process needs to be totally overhauled to create games with more regional interest

Comet · Post by **Comet** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:27 am

2ndandlong wrote:We should start another thread on attendance and marketing. They are always fun and light-hearted with creative ideas that are realistic and easy to implement.

Cage-death-match during half-time. I think that will bring in the casual Dallas market.

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:28 am

Stallion Sorority Swimming Pool

ponyte · Post by **ponyte** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:31 am

Comet wrote:
2ndandlong wrote:We should start another thread on attendance and marketing. They are always fun and light-hearted with creative ideas that are realistic and easy to implement.

Cage-death-match during half-time. I think that will bring in the casual Dallas market.

So long as its Dale Hansen vs. Skip Baylis

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:59 pm

Stallion wrote:yes but with a little rational problem solving these bowls could be solvent. Louisiana Laffeyette sends 30,000 to New Orleans Bowl-but big schools traveling across country can only sell a fraction. The selection process needs to be totally overhauled to create games with more regional interest

You're right. I'm sure bowl ticket guarantees was sold under premise that it would protect small bowls from losses/bankruptcy but in reality, it just makes sure that everyone on the bowl committee is fat and happy enough to do it next year and thus is freed from the burden of scheduling compelling or region match-ups that would actually sell tickets on the market.