Rules about JJ on PF

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:34 pm

BS. I've said plenty of bad things about JJ and I'm still here. The no-no is when you derail a thread to post a rumor that has been discussed - and disproven - on this board many, many, many times before.

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:47 pm

Obviously they didn't ban your IP since you have a new username. When you want to discuss a new subject you can do so by starting a new topic...what you did was clearly derail the topic of discussion by posting inflammatory information that had nothing to do with the subject of the thread. Had you chosen to start a new topic chances are you wouldn't have been banned for it

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:17 pm

I think in this case, your banned personage did more than just derail a thread (I know I've been guilty of that many times and am still here), it was that you posted material that was libelous, if untrue. You can say that JJ is a bad coach or called the wrong play or should have not flirted with a job at another school, but when you post material that accuses him of activities not related to football that are really gossip about his personal life and unsubstantiated, well that's going to get you banned from almost every message board. For one thing the owners do not want to get sued for publishing libelous material and accusations made by you in that post were libelous per se unless true. And if they were true, the mods if sued would have to prove that in a court of law. Easier just to dump it and not allow the person who posted it back on. Go tell your story to the National Enquirer. But don't tell it here.

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:35 pm

Stallionsmu wrote:Whats funny is all the info I read about was from the University of Hawaii blog. Its on other websites brother, nobody is going to get sued. The mods are operating this thing like a police state, say something bad and you get kicked off. Sounds kinda like North Korea or Iran to me

If you think you can do a better job, you are welcome to start your own board

panhandle_pony · Post by **panhandle_pony** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:11 pm

How about "[deleted]"

Mitch McConnell · Post by **Mitch McConnell** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:22 pm

EastStang wrote:I think in this case, your banned personage did more than just derail a thread (I know I've been guilty of that many times and am still here), it was that you posted material that was libelous, if untrue.

Well it obviously met the criteria for this greater Phoenix-area news outlet to run it. You would think their powers that be discussed it at length and felt it was fair game.

http://www.kpho.com/story/16210199/asu- ... head-coach

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:24 pm

Some of us have known about those rumors and several others about June Jones for more than 5 years and never posted them.

HB Pony Dad · Post by **HB Pony Dad** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:44 pm

Stallion wrote:Some of us have known about those rumors and several others about June Jones for more than 5 years and never posted them.

SO and the Honey Badger Don't Care ...

Bergermeister · Post by **Bergermeister** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:56 pm

Stallionsmu wrote:Whats funny is all the info I read about was from the University of Hawaii blog. Its on other websites brother, nobody is going to get sued. The mods are operating this thing like a police state, say something bad and you get kicked off. Sounds kinda like North Korea or Iran to me

Just say "goodbye".

BigT3x · Post by **BigT3x** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:17 pm

EastStang wrote:I think in this case, your banned personage did more than just derail a thread (I know I've been guilty of that many times and am still here), it was that you posted material that was libelous, if untrue. You can say that JJ is a bad coach or called the wrong play or should have not flirted with a job at another school, but when you post material that accuses him of activities not related to football that are really gossip about his personal life and unsubstantiated, well that's going to get you banned from almost every message board. For one thing the owners do not want to get sued for publishing libelous material and accusations made by you in that post were libelous per se unless true. And if they were true, the mods if sued would have to prove that in a court of law. Easier just to dump it and not allow the person who posted it back on. Go tell your story to the National Enquirer. But don't tell it here.

JJ is a public figure and therefore cannot sue anyone for libel. You have no idea what you're talking about.

BUT, I will say that the PF police state compared to other school's boards gives this place an amateur vibe. It does a disservice to the school for this board to be run so badly.

Insane_Pony_Posse · Post by **Insane_Pony_Posse** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:03 pm

Stallionsmu..what is your point? CalallenStang already explained the situation to you. Why bring up negative non-football/personal life rumors from years ago that have been shown cant be proven? What good is going to come from you airing dirty laundry personal life rumor concerning SMU's Head Football Coach? Sure other boards may allow crazy rumors but many of those schools are well established and have lots of years of successful "teflon".....we dont....no one has had to come from as far back as us.

Is your point to demean June Jones? Is your agenda to hurt SMU? I suppose I could better understand some anger spewing like this if we were repeatedly 1-11....but to seem so intent on posting wild negative rumor about our head coach that performed the biggest turn-around in SMU history?....wow...I just dont get it!

Why would an SMU fan that got deleted/banned from posting unproven negative libel rumor about the SMU Head Football Coach be so intent on posting the negative rumors...run and quickly resign up under a different name to continue self-centered ego-based negative posting of stuff from years ago that is unproven rumor and possibly libelous about our coach?

Is your point of bringing these rumors up repeatedly....to help our coaches feel better about SMU fans? Is your point to help a parent lurking reading posts feel better about sending their son to play for our coach? Is your point to help our current players feel better about their head coach and SMU fans? Is it good for coaches morale? Is it good for player morale? Is it good for parent's morale? Is it good fodder for coaches from other schools recruiting against us?

Do you have no respect for PonyPride that runs this mesaage board that you resign up and continue down the same path? None of the sources you refer to are "SMU FAN" based entities. PonyFans allows frank discussions about football decisions and all things SMU....but when you try to cross over into the personal lives of our coaches in a demeaning way about rumor stuff from years ago that were not in any way SMU related it crosses the line and I am glad that PonyPride did what he did.

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:09 pm

Well said.

jtoutloud · Post by **jtoutloud** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:15 pm

I like turtles!

Mitch McConnell · Post by **Mitch McConnell** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:29 pm

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:Stallionsmu..what is your point? CalallenStang already explained the situation to you. Why bring up negative non-football/personal life rumors from years ago that have been shown cant be proven? What good is going to come from you airing dirty laundry personal life rumor concerning SMU's Head Football Coach? Sure other boards may allow crazy rumors but many of those schools are well established and have lots of years of successful "teflon".....we dont....no one has had to come from as far back as us.

Is your point to demean June Jones? Is your agenda to hurt SMU? I suppose I could better understand some anger spewing like this if we were repeatedly 1-11....but to seem so intent on posting wild negative rumor about our head coach that performed the biggest turn-around in SMU history?....wow...I just dont get it!

Why would an SMU fan that got deleted/banned from posting unproven negative libel rumor about the SMU Head Football Coach be so intent on posting the negative rumors...run and quickly resign up under a different name to continue self-centered ego-based negative posting of stuff from years ago that is unproven rumor and possibly libelous about our coach?

Is your point of bringing these rumors up repeatedly....to help our coaches feel better about SMU fans? Is your point to help a parent lurking reading posts feel better about sending their son to play for our coach? Is your point to help our current players feel better about their head coach and SMU fans? Is it good for coaches morale? Is it good for player morale? Is it good for parent's morale? Is it good fodder for coaches from other schools recruiting against us?

Do you have no respect for PonyPride that runs this mesaage board that you resign up and continue down the same path? None of the sources you refer to are "SMU FAN" based entities. PonyFans allows frank discussions about football decisions and all things SMU....but when you try to cross over into the personal lives of our coaches in a demeaning way about rumor stuff from years ago that were not in any way SMU related it crosses the line and I am glad that PonyPride did what he did.

However, a major Phoenix news outlet reported on such "rumor" about Jones when the Arizona State fiasco went down. So are we to ignore and wish it never happened?

If it passed one credible news gathering organization's standards, then it's out there.

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:42 pm

man, what did i miss?

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