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Big 12 can't decide

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All fall, the Big 12 was talking about how happy they were to not have a championship game.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/29/39 ... title.html
http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2012 ... expansion/

* Bowlsby said expansion is not on the Big 12 table but said even if the Big 12 did expand, he’s not sure the league would add a championship game.
"I don’t know if we got to 12 if we would necessarily implement a conference championship game," Bowlsby said. With the new playoff format coming in 2014, with four teams, "We really like our path to the national championship playoffs, playing a full round robin. It brings real value to the regular season. We’ve all seen instances where a team lost in the conference championship game and eliminated their opportunity to play in the national championship game."
Now they want a waiver to play a championship game with 10.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... title-game

"At a time when lots of deregulation is taking place, it seems a little bit odd that the NCAA would be describing how we determine our champions," Bowlsby said Wednesday night, when he watched the Iowa State-Oklahoma State men's basketball game.

"I think it's reasonable to say if you're going to have a champion that you're going to have to designate it in one fashion or another. But to say it has to be between 12 schools or that there has to be divisional play or there has to be a round-robin, we're deregulating lots of things and that certainly is a candidate."

Those 2 quotes are from the same guy.
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Stupid to consider a champ game when you have a round robin format in the regular season. See no upside except $$$.
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I wonder how DeLoss feels about this? That's all that really matters.
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Whatever BEVO wants, BEVO gets.
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ReedFrawg wrote:Stupid to consider a champ game when you have a round robin format in the regular season. See no upside except $$$.
But then $$$ seem to be what it is all about now...right? 8)
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Cant really beleive anything Dodds says or anything regarding Big 12 news. They are full of sheet
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UT always disliked the championship game format but it sounds like they may be re- thinking, and the idea about allowing the two top teams to compete in a championship game without the divisional aspect gives UT a second bite at the apple against OU which they seem to need in order to have a shot at a BCS championship.
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Topper wrote:UT always disliked the championship game format but it sounds like they may be re- thinking, and the idea about allowing the two top teams to compete in a championship game without the divisional aspect gives UT a second bite at the apple against OU which they seem to need in order to have a shot at a BCS championship.
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Beating a high caliber team twice in one season is always a dicey proposition, plus it dilutes the Red River rivalry.

They would be better off bringing in Fl State and Clemson and Miami and then having a true championship game.
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PK wrote:
ReedFrawg wrote:Stupid to consider a champ game when you have a round robin format in the regular season. See no upside except $$$.
But then $$$ seem to be what it is all about now...right? 8)
Oh no doubt about that. I really don't care much for pro sports anymore because it's all about the money. I know I am living in fantasyland but I love college sports because they are supposed to be about amateurs playing a sport for love of the game. Just hate to see money driving everything.
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ReedFrawg wrote:
PK wrote:
ReedFrawg wrote:Stupid to consider a champ game when you have a round robin format in the regular season. See no upside except $$$.
But then $$$ seem to be what it is all about now...right? 8)
Oh no doubt about that. I really don't care much for pro sports anymore because it's all about the money. I know I am living in fantasyland but I love college sports because they are supposed to be about amateurs playing a sport for love of the game. Just hate to see money driving everything.
Reedfrawg, as a non-revenue sports guy, I agree that the domination of college sports by financial and media interests is slowly/quickly changing its character. I am old enough to recall different motivations for amateur sports, including the Olympics and College Athletics.
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ReedFrawg wrote:
PK wrote:
ReedFrawg wrote:Stupid to consider a champ game when you have a round robin format in the regular season. See no upside except $$$.
But then $$$ seem to be what it is all about now...right? 8)
Oh no doubt about that. I really don't care much for pro sports anymore because it's all about the money. I know I am living in fantasyland but I love college sports because they are supposed to be about amateurs playing a sport for love of the game. Just hate to see money driving everything.
I pretty much have the same outlook as you in regards to Pro vs college sports. As far as the student athlete is concerned, it is still pretty much for the love of the game though for some it is seen as a path to the pros above all else. The money thing has come more from the competion for coaches, recruiting needs for new facilities...and plain ole greed.
SMU's first president, Robert S. Hyer, selected Harvard Crimson and Yale Blue as SMU's colors to symbolize SMU's high academic standards. We are one of the few Universities to have school colors with real meaning...and we just blow them off.
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I think that we may have reached the saturation point and ratings for CFB will start to drop. The quasi-pro teams in States where they are more popular than the pro team, Michigan, UT, A&M, Alabama, Ohio State, Penn State may still get some ratings, but others will continue to languish. I mean lets be real. Who wants to watch Minnesota play Indiana except the few fans for each program? Or Purdue play Illinois? Or Washington State play Utah? Or Kentucky play Vanderbilt? Or Pitt vs. UVA? When there was one or two games of the week with regionalized telecasts, people were more likely to tune it. Now, who cares.
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EastStang wrote:I think that we may have reached the saturation point and ratings for CFB will start to drop. The quasi-pro teams in States where they are more popular than the pro team, Michigan, UT, A&M, Alabama, Ohio State, Penn State may still get some ratings, but others will continue to languish. I mean lets be real. Who wants to watch Minnesota play Indiana except the few fans for each program? Or Purdue play Illinois? Or Washington State play Utah? Or Kentucky play Vanderbilt? Or Pitt vs. UVA? When there was one or two games of the week with regionalized telecasts, people were more likely to tune it. Now, who cares.
That is why some are regional broadcasts and still make money for ESPN or FOX. I mean nationally OSU-TCU is rarely an elite game but in Texoma will get good ratings. Pair that with concurrent regional broadcasts of Wazzu-Cal, Purdue-Northwestern, UConn-Temple, and NC State vs Miami and you have a pretty solid overall national draw.

The fact is dvr's have made sports programming the only draw that people will watch live and not fast forward through the ads that appeals to male demographics. That value tanking isn't probable at all.
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You all make some good points. I just love TCU football (like you guys with SMU) and I would hate to lose interest as college football becomes more and more about money and greed. Not sure what to do about it at this point as most folks don't seem to care.
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