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Re: No Justice, No Peace

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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby Arkpony » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:11 am

For you more knowledgeable b-ball people, realistically how will this affect SMU?
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby Bergermeister » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:12 am

SMU 86 wrote:And some were saying that if we were nice enough not to appeal the post season ban that the NCAA would be nice to us on the other areas that were appealed.

We must have Hamilton Burger representing us. :roll:
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby hoopmanx » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:13 am

I don't think lack of summer unofficials matters, nor does 7 over 3 years. Roll w 10, bring fball kids back, no worries. 13 is a positively ridiculous number of ships to have for hoops and most power programs never use them, unless to satisfy GPA and reward walk-ons. Larry is far better off managing rotation w 8 or 9 than 13
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby smusic 00 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:32 am

UNC new allegations letter will be released today. Basically the same as last year's, but hey they had a nice tourney run right?
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby ponyinNC » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:08 am

Why did Cuse get scholarships back and we did not? What facts are different here?

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Re: No Justice, No Peace

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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby DiamondM75 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:52 am

ponyinNC wrote:Why did Cuse get scholarships back and we did not? What facts are different here?

I wish very bad things upon Mark Emmert. If he died, I wouldn't be upset.


I am beginning to wonder if this is more than just one Secretary taking a single non-college credit course for a single player, and the golf team violations must be more serious that we are being told.
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby Hoop Fan » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:20 pm

Golf violations must be more serious? Haha, its golf, by definition it's inconsequential and should not cause us to lose possibly millions of dollars of revenue from basketball. I can't imagine the NCAA allowing golf or equestrian violations to impact or compound UNC basketball punishments. The whole thing about Syracuse that I don't get is this: regardless of old rules vs. new rules, its all relative when talking about relief from the original punishment on appeal. Why would they get relief and we get none? Appeal is about demonstrating cooperation and getting thrown a bone. we got thrown a bone alright.
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No Justice, No Peace

Postby smupony94 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:30 pm

Most of you think the golf coach did nothing but he got a show cause penalty which the ncaa rarely does

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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby Terry Webster » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:45 pm

As far as the ncaa is concerned, it comes down to two words...Larry Brown. They don't like him. They don't like his success. I bet that is Coach J was head coach, they would have come down a lot easier.
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby Wild Mustang » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:13 pm

This might be an extreme suggestion... but why wouldn't the SMU AD or someone in the Athletic Department intentionally hold a news conference with TV/Radio Media present? This would be major National News Story directed at the NCAA (instead of being swept under the rug).

SMU can use the media to put pressure on the NCAA to punish North Carolina and Louisville. Someone needs to hold the NCAA accountable.

Maybe state that SMU humbly accepts our punishment for whatever we are being accused of and be specific
1) Keith Frazier is no longer on the team or enrolled at the school
2) Coach Maligi is no longer working at SMU, took a job at Texas A&M
3) This was a one-off offense (one player, one coach)
4) No other player or coach was involved
5) We are happy to run an up and coming, clean program at SMU

... and then...
1) Mention North Carolina and their allegations
2) Mention the ESPN Outside the Lines TV Reports and Rashaad McCants Interview (and other media reports)
3) Mention Louisville and their allegations
4) Mention the Book and the ESPN Outside the Lines TV Reports (and other media reports)
5) *Mention that neither school has been punished by the NCAA

End the news conference with a few questions for the NCAA
1) What is fair and proportional punishment for North Carolina and Louisville?
2) When should North Carolina and Louisville expect learn of their punishments?

I recognize that this will never happen, but a man can dream right?
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby smupony94 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:17 pm

Wild Mustang wrote:

3) This was a one-off offense (one player, one coach)
4) No other player or coach was involved
5) We are happy to run an up and coming, clean program at SMU



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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby Bergermeister » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:49 pm

Wild Mustang wrote:This might be an extreme suggestion... but why wouldn't the SMU AD or someone in the Athletic Department intentionally hold a news conference with TV/Radio Media present? I recognize that this will never happen, but a man can dream right?

That would take cojones. I think we got neutered a long time ago. :cry:
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Re: No Justice, No Peace

Postby JasonB » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:54 pm

Or, you wait for the UNC and Louisville punishments to come out and do something at that time.

I think it is obvious that in the NCAA's mind, they found out about stuff, we didn't self report, and LB was trying to cover things up. Period.
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