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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:19 pm

gostangs wrote:What's going on is that they are being coached by a old left over Hawaiian running backs coach



What happened to that guy Mason hired that used to coach at Florida?
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby expony18 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:53 pm

Stallion wrote:if SMU played Tulsa 12 times a year Davis would be great. A good defense with quicker defenders is going to shut it down if he can't find a receiver on 25 passing plays a game. Remember Tulsa has one of the worst secondary's in the country and he can't get the ball off in his 3rd year as a College QB

You are such a hypocrite. He is the only division 1 caliber player on this team yet you still find a way to bash him. If this was a thread about him in recruiting you would be making references to all of his offers
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby PonySnob » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:09 pm

gostangs wrote:What's going on is that they are being coached by a old left over Hawaiian running backs coach


The strength coach from Hawaii probably hasn't helped either
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby dirtysouthpony » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:42 pm

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There are no good defenses in the AAC.



Not true, the AAC has several defenses ranked in the Top 50 in total and scoring defense.


You are bringing up stats, but they are kind of hollow when you are defending against these horrible AAC offenses. Who are the good AAC defensive teams? The UCF team that gave up 39 to uconn last week?
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:36 pm

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You are bringing up stats, but they are kind of hollow when you are defending against these horrible AAC offenses. Who are the good AAC defensive teams? The UCF team that gave up 39 to uconn last week?




So both the defenses and the offenses in the AAC are horrible?
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby PoconoPony » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:40 pm

If he is to start and be effective he must learn to throw. He is a far below average passer on the average. He can hit one brilliant pass then miss the next five simple short throws and not even be close to the receiver.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:45 pm

PoconoPony wrote:If he is to start and be effective he must learn to throw. He is a far below average passer on the average. He can hit one brilliant pass then miss the next five simple short throws and not even be close to the receiver.

He has had a separated shoulder since the Baylor game. That would explain some throwing problems. He looked better today even though his shoulder is not 100%. As he gets more reps in practice and his shoulder gets better he will get better. Let's give him a chance before final judgements area made.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby jimhagle » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:49 pm

PoconoPony wrote:If he is to start and be effective he must learn to throw. He is a far below average passer on the average. He can hit one brilliant pass then miss the next five simple short throws and not even be close to the receiver.

21-32 today-which is 66%-better rethink what you said
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:01 pm

expony18 wrote:
Stallion wrote:if SMU played Tulsa 12 times a year Davis would be great. A good defense with quicker defenders is going to shut it down if he can't find a receiver on 25 passing plays a game. Remember Tulsa has one of the worst secondary's in the country and he can't get the ball off in his 3rd year as a College QB

You are such a hypocrite. He is the only division 1 caliber player on this team yet you still find a way to bash him. If this was a thread about him in recruiting you would be making references to all of his offers


Exactly what I was thinking. Stallion sure hates him some Davis. To say this kid can't be very effective in a real spread option offense is to completely ignore what we just witnessed today. Stop with all the complaints about him being the worst passer in the world. Remember, 80% of what he is still trying to run is June's BS offense and he was still trying to complete June's 3 yard outs all day. Yes, he had one bad throw right to the LB on the outside, but other than that you are way off base.

He can't find receivers because this scheme sucks as well as 90% of these mighty midgets that can't get open. He's no Johnny Football but if Morris or Herman come to town you can bet he will be our starting QB next year and they will appreciate the opportunity to work with him.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:05 pm

PoconoPony wrote:If he is to start and be effective he must learn to throw. He is a far below average passer on the average. He can hit one brilliant pass then miss the next five simple short throws and not even be close to the receiver.



True, he's going to have to play a lot better to beat our upcoming opponents.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby JasonB » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:10 pm

ojaipony wrote:Better OL and a healthy offseason to work on his craft with the right coaching staff, and I could see some fireworks.

Our OL this year has been the biggest shock to me. Have great size and some were even highly recruited. Lasecki and Weeks have plenty of experience (Briggs got SOME last year). Just kind of shocked. Not sure what's going on there.


Both sides of the line have the same problem. The common thread is strength and conditioning.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:17 pm

My complaint with him is that in his 3rd year as a college QB on about 25 passing plays he didn't know where to throw the ball -that is not acceptable. 3 Turnovers isn't going to win many games either. The offensive line wasn't any worse today than it was in any other game this year. A decent defense will spy the QB and shut down this scrambling. Kid just doesn't know what to do with the ball in the passing game I think he's an NFL athlete without question-at some other position
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:29 pm

Stallion wrote:My complaint with him is that in his 3rd year as a college QB on about 25 passing plays he didn't know where to throw the ball -that is not acceptable. 3 Turnovers isn't going to win many games either. The offensive line wasn't any worse today than it was in any other game this year. A decent defense will spy the QB and shut down this scrambling. Kid just doesn't know what to do with the ball in the passing game I think he's an NFL athlete without question-at some other position

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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:32 pm

No it didn't-the QB just didn't get the ball off in the time he's supposed to. You get the ball out in 3 seconds and you don't have a problem. When you don't get it off in 4 seconds he checks out and just does what he naturally does best-run. You really think Tulsa's defensive rush is better than the other 7 teams we've played?
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby Rebel10 » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:33 pm

JasonB wrote:Both sides of the line have the same problem. The common thread is strength and conditioning.

Common theme is low talent levels not strength and conditioning. The team has had the same strength and conditioning coach for the last few years and you have not complained. This is on bad recruiting period no matter how you try to deflect the blame.
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