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Re: Police activity

Postby ojaipony » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:37 pm

EastStang wrote:If it got Ollie off his game or his team off theirs, good job. This game is not for the faint at heart. Living in ACC territory, Duke fans are notorious for this sort of chant. Trash talk happens. I'm sure we've had worse chants aimed at us.


This.

Nothing is off limits in this context, except racial/gender stuff. When I say "nothing", I mean nothing regarding someone's BEHAVIOR. Completely open season. ESPECIALLY from students section ("hey, they're just crazy kids"). :-)

The Pitino stuff was a thing of absolute beauty. Do your research, find something good, and relentlessly go after it until the final whistle. Then, shake hands at the end. The most mentally strong wins.
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Re: Police activity

Postby freqz » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:26 pm

Was Pitino the one who said something to the effect of "I had to check the catalog...I thought it was a religious school" last year?

I'll admit that I teared up a little hearing that...
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Re: Police activity

Postby Stallion » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:29 pm

Fair Game-obviously happens every game
As long as you realize that NCAA/SMU Sportsmanship Policy which every fan agrees to abide by is much broader than your own personal definition which is why its getting pretty common to see fans get ejected these days.
So fair game but if you get kicked out you really have nothing to [deleted] about

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Re: Police activity

Postby Pony_Law » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:16 pm

freqz wrote:Was Pitino the one who said something to the effect of "I had to check the catalog...I thought it was a religious school" last year?

I'll admit that I teared up a little hearing that...


That and he mentioned that they serve beer (ie drunken rowdiness).
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Re: Police activity

Postby DiamondM » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:16 pm

I am all about research, loud creative cheers and jeers, but I'm sorry, I don't think everything is fair game. Now, a little sexual innuendo and double entendre is fine, but I don't think marital status is, if that was in fact the intent of the chant and not just a coincidence. You don't have to be crude or cheap to be loud, ethusiastic and biting. I don't want to hear one person who is endorsing "anything goes" ever call another student section or fan base classless. I don't understand why we would encourage disrespecting the wishes of the man responsible for our current success by disrepsecting his friends and colleagues, or by disregarding his requests to be loud without being crass.

The claim that Duke students do it is simply not true. Duke students WERE notorious for over the line, vulgar, anything goes chants, but have not been since the mid-80s, when they were exhorted by Terry Sanford to be "clever but clean," "devastating but decent," "witty and forceful but G-rated for television," and have been reminded by their coach before the season each year. The worst I've heard Duke students do in the last 20 years (granted I haven't heard every one of them) was when there was a Vandy player whose last name was Bates, and we (I was there) chanted on opposite sides "Master -- Bates." Then when he missed a free throw, we chanted "too much wrist." Most of the time these days though, you hear standard defense cheers, Duke players' names, "Let's Go Duke" and "Our House." You don't hear the Duke crowd chanting [deleted] after crappy calls because they respect the wishes of their coach. You don't like the alternatives they've come up with (e.g. "We Beg to Differ", "I'm Blind. I'm Deaf. I wanna be a ref"), fine, then think of some other clever alternative. It's their proximity, volume and total commitment to unison that makes them effective, not chanting "down my leg" or the like at coaches.
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Re: Police activity

Postby Junior » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:44 pm

DiamondM wrote:I am all about research, loud creative cheers and jeers, but I'm sorry, I don't think everything is fair game. Now, a little sexual innuendo and double entendre is fine, but I don't think marital status is, if that was in fact the intent of the chant and not just a coincidence. You don't have to be crude or cheap to be loud, ethusiastic and biting. I don't want to hear one person who is endorsing "anything goes" ever call another student section or fan base classless. I don't understand why we would encourage disrespecting the wishes of the man responsible for our current success by disrepsecting his friends and colleagues, or by disregarding his requests to be loud without being crass.

The claim that Duke students do it is simply not true. Duke students WERE notorious for over the line, vulgar, anything goes chants, but have not been since the mid-80s, when they were exhorted by Terry Sanford to be "clever but clean," "devastating but decent," "witty and forceful but G-rated for television," and have been reminded by their coach before the season each year. The worst I've heard Duke students do in the last 20 years (granted I haven't heard every one of them) was when there was a Vandy player whose last name was Bates, and we (I was there) chanted on opposite sides "Master -- Bates." Then when he missed a free throw, we chanted "too much wrist." Most of the time these days though, you hear standard defense cheers, Duke players' names, "Let's Go Duke" and "Our House." You don't hear the Duke crowd chanting [deleted] after crappy calls because they respect the wishes of their coach. You don't like the alternatives they've come up with (e.g. "We Beg to Differ", "I'm Blind. I'm Deaf. I wanna be a ref"), fine, then think of some other clever alternative. It's their proximity, volume and total commitment to unison that makes them effective, not chanting "down my leg" or the like at coaches.

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Re: Police activity

Postby hoopmanx » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:55 pm

DiamondM wrote:I am all about research, loud creative cheers and jeers, but I'm sorry, I don't think everything is fair game. Now, a little sexual innuendo and double entendre is fine, but I don't think marital status is, if that was in fact the intent of the chant and not just a coincidence. You don't have to be crude or cheap to be loud, ethusiastic and biting. I don't want to hear one person who is endorsing "anything goes" ever call another student section or fan base classless. I don't understand why we would encourage disrespecting the wishes of the man responsible for our current success by disrepsecting his friends and colleagues, or by disregarding his requests to be loud without being crass.

The claim that Duke students do it is simply not true. Duke students WERE notorious for over the line, vulgar, anything goes chants, but have not been since the mid-80s, when they were exhorted by Terry Sanford to be "clever but clean," "devastating but decent," "witty and forceful but G-rated for television," and have been reminded by their coach before the season each year. The worst I've heard Duke students do in the last 20 years (granted I haven't heard every one of them) was when there was a Vandy player whose last name was Bates, and we (I was there) chanted on opposite sides "Master -- Bates." Then when he missed a free throw, we chanted "too much wrist." Most of the time these days though, you hear standard defense cheers, Duke players' names, "Let's Go Duke" and "Our House." You don't hear the Duke crowd chanting [deleted] after crappy calls because they respect the wishes of their coach. You don't like the alternatives they've come up with (e.g. "We Beg to Differ", "I'm Blind. I'm Deaf. I wanna be a ref"), fine, then think of some other clever alternative. It's their proximity, volume and total commitment to unison that makes them effective, not chanting "down my leg" or the like at coaches.


Got news, I don't give a rats behind how Larry Brown wants his friends/colleagues treated. He's an assassin that's about to get us throttled for recruiting a kid we all knew he shouldn't have touched. He had no job options and its turned out great on the court. I hold the man in high regard b/c he is a helluva coach, top 5 living american coach and a HOF guy. Why would you 'respect' your coach to the point of putting a flawed mf'er on a pedestal? He's not the morality police, if anything he's closer to being a wolf in old mans clothing.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and bring it on come May, but I have my own mind. As for the Dook nonsense, sit behind the visitors bench wearing Terp colors and tell me it's all clean. STFU already.

Good job whoever got on Ollie about his wife. That's about as proud as I can be of an SMU student section.
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Re: Police activity

Postby SMU 86 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:01 pm

Why don't you tell us how you really feel Hoopmanx. :lol:
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Re: Police activity

Postby gostangs » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:05 pm

Yeah I'm not buying the Duke is clever but clean b.s either. About half that school is from long island - they definitely go deep on the hurled insults.

Nothing wrong with this one. I admit it would sting, and I am sure Dad had heard enough and popped a gasket - but I like us having a reputation as being a hard [deleted] place to play - and not just for players.

Ollie has heard way worse and if he hasn't he will very soon.

Pitino can kiss my rear. That guy is a sleaze dog in my view.
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Re: Police activity

Postby Pony147 » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:06 pm

hoopmanx wrote:Got news, I don't give a rats behind how Larry Brown wants his friends/colleagues treated. He's an assassin that's about to get us throttled for recruiting a kid we all knew he shouldn't have touched. He had no job options and its turned out great on the court. I hold the man in high regard b/c he is a helluva coach, top 5 living american coach and a HOF guy. Why would you 'respect' your coach to the point of putting a flawed mf'er on a pedestal? He's not the morality police, if anything he's closer to being a wolf in old mans clothing.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and bring it on come May, but I have my own mind. As for the Dook nonsense, sit behind the visitors bench wearing Terp colors and tell me it's all clean. STFU already.


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Re: Police activity

Postby gostangs » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:09 pm

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Re: Police activity

Postby SMULaxer » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:11 pm

DiamondM wrote:I am all about research, loud creative cheers and jeers, but I'm sorry, I don't think everything is fair game. Now, a little sexual innuendo and double entendre is fine, but I don't think marital status is, if that was in fact the intent of the chant and not just a coincidence. You don't have to be crude or cheap to be loud, ethusiastic and biting. I don't want to hear one person who is endorsing "anything goes" ever call another student section or fan base classless. I don't understand why we would encourage disrespecting the wishes of the man responsible for our current success by disrepsecting his friends and colleagues, or by disregarding his requests to be loud without being crass.

The claim that Duke students do it is simply not true. Duke students WERE notorious for over the line, vulgar, anything goes chants, but have not been since the mid-80s, when they were exhorted by Terry Sanford to be "clever but clean," "devastating but decent," "witty and forceful but G-rated for television," and have been reminded by their coach before the season each year. The worst I've heard Duke students do in the last 20 years (granted I haven't heard every one of them) was when there was a Vandy player whose last name was Bates, and we (I was there) chanted on opposite sides "Master -- Bates." Then when he missed a free throw, we chanted "too much wrist." Most of the time these days though, you hear standard defense cheers, Duke players' names, "Let's Go Duke" and "Our House." You don't hear the Duke crowd chanting [deleted] after crappy calls because they respect the wishes of their coach. You don't like the alternatives they've come up with (e.g. "We Beg to Differ", "I'm Blind. I'm Deaf. I wanna be a ref"), fine, then think of some other clever alternative. It's their proximity, volume and total commitment to unison that makes them effective, not chanting "down my leg" or the like at coaches.


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Re: Police activity

Postby couch 'em » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:30 pm

All due respect to DiamondM, the only loud thing in Moody for many years, and without comment on the specific divorce comment, how Duke does it is not objectively right, wrong, or better than anyone else, and we must find our own SMU way
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Re: Police activity

Postby DiamondM » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:01 pm

Agreed that SMU should find its own way. I suggested that way be ascerbic, creative wit that doesn't involve wives, mothers, sisters, etc., but clearly no one follows my lead anyway, or I wouldn't have been the only person yelling in Moody for the last 15 years. So feel free to emulate Maryland fans, where the only thing they hurl at opposing teams, coaches, and fans besides something that rhymes with "Duck Fook" (or Ducking Fook player's sister) are batteries and water bottles. (well, not anymore -- I guess they'll have to Ruck Futgers now.)

But please delete all past and future "stay classy" threads in this forum if we choose to go that way. I never want to hear any more complaints about Texas Tech fans, Houston fans, Tulsa fans, or anyone else. Mmmkay.
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Re: Police activity

Postby skurtn » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:09 pm

It's interesting that acting without class is OK in a sporting arena, but somehow, many of these same people wouldn't act that way elsewhere.
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