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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby sbsmith » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:02 pm

When this fails, which conference will Coog High threaten next?
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby redpony » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:14 pm

I heard the MAC is really worried.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby BaylorHistory » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:11 am

redpony wrote:Guess you can try similar BU deal and have 'tilleyman the frittata' your big honcho bribe a few legislators to get you in. You sure won't do it on university merit.

Yeah except we had the governor and lt governor along with a lot of the money behind them. They currently have... :?:

Give me SMU (and the BU/SMU/TCU rivalry triangle) over UH any day.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby gostangs » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:19 am

i get boosterism, but you can't flat out lie and get away with it. UH is not tier one at anything remotely associated with academics.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby BaylorHistory » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:31 am

gostangs wrote:i get boosterism, but you can't flat out lie and get away with it. UH is not tier one at anything remotely associated with academics.

It's a trick of the us news and world report. They rank the top 200 schools and give them all "tier one" status, so #189 University of Houston calls themselves tier I the same as #19 Rice.


The Big XII sucks academically compared to the other P5 conferences, so I'm not sure they care but UH academic ranking certainly isn't a positive. Currently #168 WVU is the lowest ranked P5 team, so that would move to mythical Big XII UH too.

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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby stc9 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:44 am

If I am on the board of UH - I make this play. If, and I am more than willing to concede this is a big if, I can economically force UT into backing my school then I make the play. It all depends on how strong of a coalition I can put together. At the end of the day, if I can say that UT has to share all revenue (and I mean all) with every public school in Texas. Allowing UH into the Big XII is the lesser of two evils for the UT President.

Don't forget, politics is how Baylor got into the Big XII to begin with.
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UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby CalallenStang » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:52 am

stc9 wrote:If I am on the board of UH - I make this play. If, and I am more than willing to concede this is a big if, I can economically force UT into backing my school then I make the play. It all depends on how strong of a coalition I can put together. At the end of the day, if I can say that UT has to share all revenue (and I mean all) with every public school in Texas. Allowing UH into the Big XII is the lesser of two evils for the UT President.

Don't forget, politics is how Baylor got into the Big XII to begin with.


You make this play behind closed doors, not in the papers. Bring power players in and state your case. Lobby.

Taking it to the papers is desperate-looking and wreaks of not having political capital
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby peruna81 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:07 am

CalallenStang wrote:
stc9 wrote:If I am on the board of UH - I make this play. If, and I am more than willing to concede this is a big if, I can economically force UT into backing my school then I make the play. It all depends on how strong of a coalition I can put together. At the end of the day, if I can say that UT has to share all revenue (and I mean all) with every public school in Texas. Allowing UH into the Big XII is the lesser of two evils for the UT President.

Don't forget, politics is how Baylor got into the Big XII to begin with.


You make this play behind closed doors, not in the papers. Bring power players in and state your case. Lobby.

Taking it to the papers is desperate-looking and wreaks of not having political capital

let's watch how this is played out. If this is met with the "stomach game" (Japanese response of ignoring call for surrender), then another strategy is called for...but if it works, "Lenny, you will have saved the lives of millions of voters"...no no no, then there is hope for SMU.

Don't know where this stream of middle 70's-80's consciousness came from this morning. Cal, I think you are right, it smells of desperateness, but there ARE enough haters of all things Longhorn that it may resonate.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:52 am

Hey, I have degrees from both SMU and UH!

There was a time when UH had a disproportionate amount of political clout. For example, UH successfully threw enough wrenches into A&M' attempted acquisition of South Texas College of Law on the 00's that A&M gave up and pursued Texas Wesleyan Law instead. Lots of UH law grads in govt., legislature and judiciary.

I don't know if that power still exists, though.

This is the kind of statement fans make and fans wish their school's leadership would make. In other words, there isn't any teeth behind it.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby skurtn » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:40 pm

As much as I bash UH, I do it as a joke.
I know several lawyers, a couple judges, and several engineers that graduated from there (graduate school, not undergrad). Super smart folks and doubt going there degraded their ability to excel.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby MustangStealth » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:47 pm

BaylorHistory wrote:#156 Texas Tech
#168 West Virginia
#189 Houston


Wow. 33 spots behind tortilla throwers and 21 behind couch burners. That's impressive.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby malonish » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:59 pm

skurtn wrote:As much as I bash UH, I do it as a joke.
I know several lawyers, a couple judges, and several engineers that graduated from there (graduate school, not undergrad). Super smart folks and doubt going there degraded their ability to excel.


Any grad school means it's an above average person. It's the "any old undergrad'll do" people we are bashing.
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby CalallenStang » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:30 pm

peruna81 wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:
stc9 wrote:If I am on the board of UH - I make this play. If, and I am more than willing to concede this is a big if, I can economically force UT into backing my school then I make the play. It all depends on how strong of a coalition I can put together. At the end of the day, if I can say that UT has to share all revenue (and I mean all) with every public school in Texas. Allowing UH into the Big XII is the lesser of two evils for the UT President.

Don't forget, politics is how Baylor got into the Big XII to begin with.


You make this play behind closed doors, not in the papers. Bring power players in and state your case. Lobby.

Taking it to the papers is desperate-looking and wreaks of not having political capital

let's watch how this is played out. If this is met with the "stomach game" (Japanese response of ignoring call for surrender), then another strategy is called for...but if it works, "Lenny, you will have saved the lives of millions of voters"...no no no, then there is hope for SMU.

Don't know where this stream of middle 70's-80's consciousness came from this morning. Cal, I think you are right, it smells of desperateness, but there ARE enough haters of all things Longhorn that it may resonate.


The problem is that most haters of all things Longhorn are Aggies, Red Raiders, Bears, and Frogs, and don't care about UH (or SMU for that matter)
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Re: UH chair: Legislature should force UH to BigXII

Postby Pony Boss » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:40 pm

And don't care about each other really
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