Big 12 grumbling

[RGV Pony]

Is Houston going to hire McCarney when Herman goes to South Carolina?

[East Coast Mustang]

Neither Houston nor SMU are getting into the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference

[East Coast Mustang]

Frankly I think Texas would rather go to the Pac-12 than share a conference with the likes of Memphis or Cincinnati, either

[smupony94]

Frankly I think Texas would rather go to the Pac-12 than share a conference with the likes of Memphis or Cincinnati, either

Texas doesn't mind Cincy they can't stand Memphis

[East Coast Mustang]

Frankly I think Texas would rather go to the Pac-12 than share a conference with the likes of Memphis or Cincinnati, either

Texas doesn't mind Cincy they can't stand Memphis

I still don't see why they'd expand, esp if they can stage a conf champ game with ten teams

[MustangStealth]

Is Houston going to hire McCarney when Herman goes to South Carolina?

Charlie Weis. His Notre Dame payouts finally ended, he needs to get paid again.

[East Coast Mustang]

There was a report out that Sonny Dykes is so desperate to leave Cal he'd even consider a G5 Texas job. Houston would be a good fit if Herman left

[RGV Pony]

Oh that's right, forgot about that.

[Charleston Pony]

Big XII is going to need an undefeated champion if it wants to lock down a playoff spot. Any one loss Big XII team is going to struggle against one loss champions from the other conferences who will have played their way through a championship game and there is also Notre dame to be concerned about. Current system is generating plenty of buzz and that's what they hoped for...even more than the old arguments about which 2 teams deserved to play for the championship. Same would be true if playoffs expanded to 8 teams (which conferences deserve the wildcard spots and would any G5 team be worthy?)

As for Big XII expansion, I agree that Houston and SMU add nothing and that BYU, Memphis, Cincy and potentially even UCF/USF would be more attractive than adding another Texas school. When all is said and done, it's about adding more TV viewers and Texas is already covered.

[Topper]

Didn't the SWC fail because the 4 teams left behind weren't pulling their weight on attendance, tv ratings, etc? TCU fixed it and got back in.

That was partly the case. DeLoss Dodds was the architect of the whole thing. He always wanted the Big 8 and SWC to merge. He also wanted to marginalize as many Texas programs as possible thinking that UT would dominate recruiting with everyone else in a second rate conference. Remember that SMU regularly signed UT's recruiting targets before the DP.

Tech and Baylor only got into the Big 12 because of their political connections at the time. Dodd's claim was that Arkansas's departure and SMU, TCU and U of H's various NCAA problems broke up the conference. He also said that ticket sales were a problem even though SMU and the other smaller schools agreed to a plan whereby each team kept all of its home revenues.

[sbsmith]

I live in OK, and had a local sports radio station on today. I don't normally listen to them and don't know anything about these guys, so I don't know if this is a regular topic. They were very upset with the Big 12 leadership though, basically saying that refusal to expand has left them on the outside of the new system, having to hope that the other conferences falter in order for the Big 12 to get a shot. They want the conference to either expand to 12, or to petition for conferences without a championship game to be able to schedule a 13th regular season game (which I don't see happening ever).

It would be interesting to know how prevalent this opinion is.

Maybe this will shut them up

http://espn.go.com/college-football/rec ... =400763466

[East Coast Mustang]

Conf champ games are such a double edged sword. OU's ticket is punched, I bet they're glad they don't have to play WVU next week. Meanwhile Clemson and Bama's playoff chances could be dashed with a loss next week (although Clemson is in much more danger than Bama there. Florida looks putrid).

Most compelling one is the Big 10 champ game which is essentially a play in game for the fourth playoff spot

[sbsmith]

Conf champ games are such a double edged sword.

Yep, the Big 12 lost out on quite a few title games back in the BCS era due to having that CCG.