Proposed Big 12

SMUBig12Bound · Post by **SMUBig12Bound** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:21 pm

From reading reports I don't think Texas wants Houston in the Big 12. We need to join forces with the horns to get us in.

North
Cincinnati
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
West Virginia

South
Baylor
Memphis
SMU
TCU
Texas
Texas Tech
UCF or Tulane

smusic 00 · Post by **smusic 00** » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:27 pm

Can't wait to have the last laugh when we both get left in the dust.

mtrout · Post by **mtrout** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:20 am

Houston is winning at the right time while we are vying for worst team in fbs football. Not good.

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:43 am

IMO, the ONLY chance we have is partnering with UH and convincing the PAC-12 they need a presence in Texas. I think they eventually take SDSU and UNLV which leaves NM, Boise, Colo St, SMU and UH to battle for the final two spots. It's the longest of longshots.

Also, I think UH has the leadership to make it happen. I've seen no evidence we do. Even though we have no chance at the Big 12, it would make me feel better if we were in the media promoting SMU like UH, Cincy and Colo St have been.

Pony ^ · Post by **Pony ^** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:03 am

we don't have a chance at P5. accept it.

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:10 am

I disagree with a lot of what you postand this is no different. Accepting it is what got SMU to this point in the first place, but carry on.....

AustinPerson · Post by **AustinPerson** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:52 am

I wonder if the Tulane and Rice and Tulsa message boards also have crazy posters who think that they have a chance with the P5.

flockofseagulls · Post by **flockofseagulls** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:26 am

LA_Mustang wrote:IMO, the ONLY chance we have is partnering with UH and convincing the PAC-12 they need a presence in Texas.

any talk about any conference other than the pac-12 is an utter waste of time. that's our only shot. end of story.

One Trick Pony · Post by **One Trick Pony** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:30 am

AustinPerson wrote:I wonder if the Tulane and Rice and Tulsa message boards also have crazy posters who think that they have a chance with the P5.

If I'm ever feeling a bit down and need a laugh I always come here thank God for Pony fans

Charleston Pony · Post by **Charleston Pony** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:44 pm

AustinPerson wrote:I wonder if the Tulane and Rice and Tulsa message boards also have crazy posters who think that they have a chance with the P5.

Tulane has actually been mentioned by some media as more of a possibility than SMU. Go figure

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:03 pm

I think Tulane gets mentioned for the same reason UNLV does with the PAC 12. Who doesn't want to visit Vegas or NOLA for a weekend and watch your school play?

peruna81 · Post by **peruna81** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:48 pm

flockofseagulls wrote:
LA_Mustang wrote:IMO, the ONLY chance we have is partnering with UH and convincing the PAC-12 they need a presence in Texas.

any talk about any conference other than the pac-12 is an utter waste of time. that's our only shot. end of story.

I tend to disagree...If, and it is an ENORMOUS IF, we were to get any invite in the near (2 year) future, I believe it would be to the ACC.
We need to get a pulse by October, or we are not evening to get a sniff from the Big 12.

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:05 pm

Pretty sure the Big 12's decision will come way before October. Unless you can George O'Leary our resume without getting caught, it is what it is.

Greenwich Pony · Post by **Greenwich Pony** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:19 pm

Well, most of this will come down to the Dallas market value.

If Rutgers brings NYC (and I have lived in the area for 20 years and haven't seen a single Rutgers game live or on TV locally- they are invisible in NYC), then SMU has a chance to bring some conference with a Network into North Texas (understand we have only a slightly bigger impact on Dallas media). We have decent facilities and a good location and the potential to be a solid performer (even if it is not happening at the moment).

I doubt the Big 12 will be interested because 1) they already have TCU in the market and 2) UT. The SEC has A&M which doesn't necessarily get them the DFW market for an SEC network, but the SEC probably doesn't need the DFW market. Our only chances would be to lock out a competitor or shore up the conference if Texas and OU bolt.

It will come down to is the DFW market footprint worth it to another conference network? It might be with reduced cable fees, to increase the footprint and audience. And it may not. That's the gamble.

solomouse · Post by **solomouse** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:28 pm

We have a fine new coach,but it was rumored that he expressed an interest in Baylor...which puts him on a short term here...other than basketball,we have nothing to interest anyone except fanatics who ,like me,are stupid enough to hope that some magic will happen....Turner and/or Hart are not strong enough to persuade anyone to recklessly include SMU in any sort of expansion...we have no proven institutional commitment....we have no proven leadership from our board of trustees (for athletics),we have no significant community support....we have a few hundred fans who are paying way to much for a poor product on our football field...when you have a poor product on your football field,you will have a bad result...when you have a bad result you will have no fans,...you know the rest....that is my message to you. Now, I will go kick my dog.

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