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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Rebel10 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:41 pm

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orguy wrote:Rice an academic powerhouse. SMU? you jest. Proud alum but these kinds of comments
are absurd.


agreed. the way some of the posters on here post about our "academic prestige" you'd think we're an Ivy league school. Hell, UCONN is ranked higher than us

It's the only school ranked above SMU in the American. Welcome back Lebanese.


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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby SoCal_Pony » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:50 pm

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JasonB wrote:A winning SMU program bumps us to the top of any and every list. Until then, we are just another guy.


There are what, 17 schools in this beauty pageant + 10 existing schools in B12.

UT is the indisputable crown jewel of this conference.

SMU more closely resembles UT than any of the other 26 schools. To say that we are 'just another guy' is an insult to SMU and surprising coming from as big a supporter as you.

Didn't read all this thread but one would hope that part of our sales pitch is that we would complete our Athletic improvements funding within 90 days of acceptance.


Honest question - how is it we are the ones who most resemble UT? One of the largest colleges in the country and the flagship school for the state of Texas vs. a smallish Methodist University with a checkered football past. Whatever the other schools might look like, I don't think we resemble them very much. And I have to agree with JasonB - we have not done enough to distinguish ourselves from the pack, especially the past two years.

You're right about the 90 days though - I'd put that in there as well.


Leopold,

I think Puckhead did a great job of answering this question. I would only add from a personal level I could have attended any of these 27 schools. I applied for only 2, UT & SMU, the 2 Best B-schools in Texas. I wouldn't even consider 23 of these schools.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Pony Boss » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:55 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
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Lebanese4Life wrote:[quote="orguy"]Rice an academic powerhouse. SMU? you jest. Proud alum but these kinds of comments
are absurd.


agreed. the way some of the posters on here post about our "academic prestige" you'd think we're an Ivy league school. Hell, UCONN is ranked higher than us

It's the only school ranked above SMU in the American. Welcome back Lebanese.


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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby orguy » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:46 pm

Lebanese4Life wrote:
orguy wrote:Rice an academic powerhouse. SMU? you jest. Proud alum but these kinds of comments
are absurd.


agreed. the way some of the posters on here post about our "academic prestige" you'd think we're an Ivy league school. Hell, UCONN is ranked higher than us


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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby leopold » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:18 pm

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Leopold,

I think Puckhead did a great job of answering this question. I would only add from a personal level I could have attended any of these 27 schools. I applied for only 2, UT & SMU, the 2 Best B-schools in Texas. I wouldn't even consider 23 of these schools.


He didn't.
I get the whole 'look underneath the current success' thing, but how does that make us the most similar to UT? Not just being a jerk - I asked my former Longhorn athlete wife the question and she honestly doesn't get it, either.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Puckhead48E » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:29 pm

That's funny...I didn't mention UT once. I was responding to the general lunacy on this board. The level of short sighed idiocy is impressive...but doesn't solve anything.


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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby mrydel » Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:34 pm

We both have a U in our school initials.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Sam I Am » Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:59 pm

Houston is a cinch to join the Big 12, especially after beating OU today. Cincy is probably a strong candidate too. The odds are that only two schools will join the Big 12 at this time. The BIg 12 is concerned about RPI of their games in order to make the final four NCAA playoffs. It also matters how big is the fan base and attendance at home games. This is the weakest area of qualifications for SMU's candidacy. If we are still in consideration, it is because of our big backers and their being shown some respect before other schools are chosen for Big 12 membership. Sorry to be discouraging about SMU's membership prospects , as much as I would love for it to happen, that is not realistic now.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Dukie » Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:29 am

Sam I Am wrote:Houston is a cinch to join the Big 12, especially after beating OU today. Cincy is probably a strong candidate too. The odds are that only two schools will join the Big 12 at this time. The BIg 12 is concerned about RPI of their games in order to make the final four NCAA playoffs. It also matters how big is the fan base and attendance at home games. This is the weakest area of qualifications for SMU's candidacy. If we are still in consideration, it is because of our big backers and their being shown some respect before other schools are chosen for Big 12 membership. Sorry to be discouraging about SMU's membership prospects , as much as I would love for it to happen, that is not realistic now.

The most discouraging thing is the appearance of Rice in that ESPN article. If they made this cut, it just shows that former SWC schools get a courtesy/pity inclusion in this round.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby PK » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:51 am

Pretty much all the big 12 ADs want to keep the conference at ten teams. The university presidents are the ones pushing to expand. If they add schools, the GOR will immediately have to be renegotiated and UT and OU do not want that to happen. Once the current GOR expires, UT and OU can go anywhere they want to go and they don't want to lose that option. Chances of expansion slim to none.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby smupony94 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:49 am

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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby sadderbudweiser » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:07 am

Sam I Am wrote:Houston is a cinch to join the Big 12, especially after beating OU today. Cincy is probably a strong candidate too. The odds are that only two schools will join the Big 12 at this time. The BIg 12 is concerned about RPI of their games in order to make the final four NCAA playoffs. It also matters how big is the fan base and attendance at home games. This is the weakest area of qualifications for SMU's candidacy. If we are still in consideration, it is because of our big backers and their being shown some respect before other schools are chosen for Big 12 membership. Sorry to be discouraging about SMU's membership prospects , as much as I would love for it to happen, that is not realistic now.


I think, if it happens, the other spot goes to Memphis. After they obliterate Kansas.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby mrydel » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:09 am

That should do it right. Amazed other schools have not gotten it done this way.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby smupony94 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:12 am

sadderbudweiser wrote:
Sam I Am wrote:Houston is a cinch to join the Big 12, especially after beating OU today. Cincy is probably a strong candidate too. The odds are that only two schools will join the Big 12 at this time. The BIg 12 is concerned about RPI of their games in order to make the final four NCAA playoffs. It also matters how big is the fan base and attendance at home games. This is the weakest area of qualifications for SMU's candidacy. If we are still in consideration, it is because of our big backers and their being shown some respect before other schools are chosen for Big 12 membership. Sorry to be discouraging about SMU's membership prospects , as much as I would love for it to happen, that is not realistic now.


I think, if it happens, the other spot goes to Memphis. After they obliterate Kansas.


Memphis is reportedly no longer in the running
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